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1. LapDigest News for Issue No. 203 - Wed 2/24/99
2. RE: Vibratory Tumbler Noise
3. Re: Polishing Chinese Writing Stone
4. RE: Manmade stones
5. RE: Carving Rocks
6. RE: Manmade Stones
7. RE: Manmade Gems
8. Note: Ganoksin Wins- Top 25 Industry Websites Title
9. BIO: Carol Whearty
10. BIO: Dennis Babbitt
11. WTB: Tuffa Stone


Subject: LapDigest News for Issue No. 203 - Wed 2/24/99

Have you ever thought that you would like to go to the
Summer week-long workshops at Wildacres Retreat (near Spruce
Pine NC - atop the Blue Ridge mountains, or to William
Holland School (in northern Georgia mountains?) All at
$250 per week. Well any of you can and we will tell you all
about it in an upcoming issue.

But till then , HAVE FUN!!!


Subject: RE: Vibratory Tumbler Noise


As newbies, we tackled Idaho garnets (hard!) as the first
rocks to polish with our new TumbleVibe. They promptly began
wearing through the bowl; the prospect of a new bowl every
two batches wasn't appealing. In desperation, I went to the
local tire store, got some discarded inner tube and using
scissors cut disks of about 8 inch radius out of it with a
hole in the center so they fit over the inner post, one disk
for each grit. I reasoned that since the rolling type of
tumblers are rubber lined, it might work for the vibrating
type as well. The tumbler is now considerably quieter, the
action of the rocks appears better - the garnets turn over
more, and the rubber so far appears impervious to wear.


Subject: Re: Polishing Chinese Writing Stone

I always used worn silicon carbide belts. As an alternative
very fine sheets of silicon carbide paper can be used for
hand sanding. For a polish, I use tin oxide on a rock hard
felt wheel. The color comes out right. The problem I
noticed on some cabs is a slight undercutting on the black
white border. This was probably caused by not enough fine

Steve Ramsdell

Subject: RE: Manmade stones

Deb, and all,

Goldstone is all manmade. It is a patented process, and it
is quite lovely. I have pieces of the first made which is
almost copper colored and more recently have found it in
green, blue, purple and have heard of red but not seen it.


Subject: RE: Carving Rocks

<<I was wondering is there a Digest for Gem Carving? I know
there is one for lapidary and one for faceting; is there one
for carvers?>>

There is a newsgroup devoted to carving. I believe it is
rec.crafts.carving. It has been a while since I read it,
the subjects were at best on softer stones, mainly wood and
metal sculpture. There is another called
rec.crafts.metalworking and numerous arts and craft
newsgroups. If you don't know what newsgroups are, you must
subscribe to them through your ISP and use a reader or a
webbrowser to download the posts.

For sure read "Rockhounds". You subscribe by sending mail
to "Majordomo@infodyn.com" with the following command in
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I will give one tip when subscribing to this. Put only the
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Mark Liccini
Right on, Mark! Rec.crafts.carving seems to be about 90%
about carving wood, and some of the rest is about carving
stones. A great newsgroup if you like woodcarving! hale

Subject: RE: Manmade Stones

Goldtone is ground-up pyrite in glass made by the Byzentine
monks in Italy; or so I've always been told.

Victoria stone in melted quartz with minerals added for
color, then cast into large cup-size forms;these were made
by a Japanese family but since the father has died, the
family no longer is making it.

roy Meade

Subject: RE: Manmade Gems

Thanks, all!

Thanks to everyone who responded to me regarding goldstone.
Especial thanks to the person who gave me the addy for the
place that sells victoria stone, and to Hale, for pointing
me to that book.

Deborah Brown

Subject: Note: Ganoksin Wins: Top 25 Industry Websites Title


ijeweler.com has kindly award us with the title of The "Top
25 Industry Websites"

I would like to personally thank each one of you for
helping us in creation of the site. Without your active
support and participation we wouldn't be here today.



Dr. E. Aspler
Managing Director
Ganoksin Jewelry Co.,Ltd.

Subject: BIO: Carol Whearty

Carol Whearty, Kalamazoo, MI, age 50.

I've been making jewelry that I sell at arts & crafts shows
for 10 yrs. Started out with beads. Took a course in
silversmithing through the local art institute 10 yrs ago,
but it's too messy, I'm scared of the torch, and I like to
touch my work which you can't do without getting burned.

I go to Quartzsite every winter for my vacation and renewal
of spirit and to pump old people for their knowledge (no
disrespect intended). There is nobody locally I can turn to.
I just discovered rec.crafts.jewelry by accident and thus
Lapidary Digest when I got back from Tucson.

About 5 yrs ago I bought a Genie imitation (6 wheels but I
just discovered I'm missing the very necessary leather spin
disk for polishing). Then I bought a Dremel. Then a
High-tech buffer and an ionic cleaner. Last year I bought
a wizard trim saw. Today I bought a vibrating tumbler at a
gun shop for the purpose of having it put my final polish
on the lapped freeforms.

I very much want to become vertically integrated so I can
take a rock, slice it, shape it, polish it, and wrap it
(wire-wrapping). I have the wire-wrapping down pat but it's
the lapidary stuff I need help with. Especially tumbling.

Glad I found you.

Subject: BIO: Dennis Babbitt

My name is Dennis, and live in Southern California. I have
been interested in lapidary and rock-hounding since grammar
school in Oregon, where I collected agates on the beach and
saw thunder eggs and tumble-polished stones in the shops.

I learned how to slab, trim, and cut cabs at the on-base
facility at Mountain Home AFB, Idaho. My meager equipment
consists of two tumblers, a small slab/trim saw, a small
combination set, polishers, and small homemade sphere
I like to go into the desert and search for deposits of
different material, mostly agate, jasper and petrified

Dennis Babbitt

Subject: WTB: Tuffa Stone

No one has said anything about silver work so far, so I hope
this question is not out of line since it is about rocks!
Where can I buy or swap for the "tuffa" that the Indians use
for casting silver items? I know it is found in the
Southwest, but have not seen it advertised. It is not for

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