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1. LapDigest News for Issue No. 133 - Friday 4/10/98
2. NEW: How Do I Renew Silicon Carbide & Diamond Belts?
3. NEW: Seeking Carver
4. NEW: Sphere Maker's List
6. RE: Red Tigereye?
7. RE: Do We Consider Flintknapping Part of Lapidary?

Subject: LapDigest News for Issue No. 133 - Friday 4/10/98

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We are putting together an issue on sphere making. If you
know anyone who makes sphere machines other than Covington,
Richardson's Ranch, Diamond Pacific, Adams and Arrowhead,
please write me and tell me their names and addresses.

Becky Salon put a question to the list and got no answers.
She has resubmitted the question below. Please consider her
question and try to help her out.

Have a great Easter. Next issue should be out on Monday, if I
get my taxes done! (smile)


Subject: NEW: How Do I Renew Silicon Carbide & Diamond Belts?

My name is Becky Solon and I'm a new subscriber to
Lapidary Digest but not new to lapidary arts. I've been a
rockhound since I was a child and was always interested in
paleontology, collecting Lake Michigan beach fossils and
studying their geological history and the evolutionary
biology of the region as a hobby. My collection is vast and
my sister, Kris Hoehn and I still collect fossil agates every
summer on Lake Michigan beaches near where my parents have
their summer home, on Crystal Lake, a glacially-formed
crystal clear lake that empties into Lake Michigan near
Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore. The water is
turquoise in color during the summer, and rock collecting is
a wonderful experience for the variety and colors of fossil
pebbles and agate cobbles. We spent two vacations on Lake
Superior looking for agates, but either the beaches are
over-collected or it wasn't a good season in either case.
We still prefer Lake Michigan stones, and the lapidary work
proves it to be rewarding.

I am going through a lot of sanding belts on my Star Diamond
combination unit, especially on the harder stones. Is there
a safe way to recharge both silicon carbide and diamond belts?
I've heard about the sprays but have been afraid to try them
for fear of inhaling particles from a spray, even with face
protection. Do any of you have experience with recharging
belts? If so, do you use the sprays, and how would you
suggest using these sprays? Do you recharge the belts outside
in the open air for complete safety, but then do you always
have to wear a respirator when you use the [recharged] belts?
I hate to throw them away.

I bought three diamond belts from Minnesota Lapidary Supply
(MLS) about two years ago, and they're so worn that if I try
to use them, they leave marks on the stones. They definitely
need recharging. Even the silicon carbide belts get bald with
too much use and are practically useless at this point. I
subscribe to LAPIDARY JOURNAL but haven't seen any articles
on this subject in the 3 years I've been a subscriber? Any
suggestions or recommendations on methods for recharging belts
and where to purchase for best prices, would be appreciated.
I've bought most of my silicon carbide belts at Grieger's in

Becky Solon

Subject: NEW: Seeking Carver

A Geologist has contacted me for material to make a large
Quartz disc. I have a collection of Giant flawless Quartz
rough that he needs. He is seeking a Lapidary Artist capable
of carving to his specs. He is making:

By the way, I will be using the quartz disc as a density
standard so that I can demonstrate a new method for measuring
density, porosity and void ratio in soils and rocks.

Anyone who is up to the job, please contact me.

Mark Liccini

Fine Rough Dealers Since 1970


Subject: NEW: Sphere Maker's List

It was suggested to me that sphere making is a 'lonely' part
of the lapidary arts, with sphere makers so widely scattered
that they have very few other sphere makers to talk to. To
promote communication among the sphere makers on this list,
it was further suggested that we might develop a list of those
members who are sphere-makers - just names & e-mail addresses,
and give that list only to those members who are sphere
makers. Sounds like a good idea, but I always worry about the
list being used for commercial purposes.

So let's hear from our sphere makers how you feel about this.
Your answers will not be published.



The AFMS President has authorized the opening for
inspection of the AFMS Test web site. It is located at

According to plan, it will be at that site up through the
August AFMS meeting. After that time, it may move to a new

You are invited to steer the AFMS officers to that site for
their review of the content.

Mel Albright
Hug or call someone you love today!
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 21:44:34 -0400
Subject: RE: Red Tigereye?

I can't resist adding my two pennyworth.

You can also get pink tigereye from red tigereye, or honey
colored from the brown, by soaking slabs or prepolished cabs
in a solution of oxalic acid. Be careful not to drink oxalic
acid, it's a bit poisonous.


Non-commercial republish OK.

Subject: RE: Do We Consider Flintknapping Part of Lapidary?

Well, the votes are in and I see that we are almost
unanimously in agreement that flintknapping should be a part
of the scope of this newsgroup. To honor this, I will try to
work toward a single issue devoted to flintknapping. Some of
the notes and letters you sent are being saved for that issue.
But till then, some of your comments are given below... hale
I am fascinated by the work done by knappers, having been an
Indian artifact collector for many years. Some of the work
modern knappers do is exquisite. However, I don't think that
knapping is really considered a part of lapidary as much as
it would be with archaeology. Unless the finished product was
incorporated into jewelry (I know, some will scream
'blasphemy') or as part of an aesthetically fashioned display
of cut and polished minerals. I have seen recently knapped
replicas that were mounted in settings or electroformed in
gold along the edges that were quite beautiful.

I would be interested in hearing the opinions of other list

Vance McCollum
Perhaps a discussion SHOULD take place about certain
'activities/materials' but the 'default' should be to
include rather than exclude whenever possible.

You (wisely,I think) do not include faceting SPECIFIC posts.
The main reason being that that subject is presently well
served by the Facetor's Digest. If ,however, the FD went
defunct I'd bet you'd be willing to include that subject in
this vehicle.

Now, if the argument turns to statements like; "Hey, those
Folsom points aren't ground and polished" then what do you
do when a post comes in about - say - drilling a hole in a
pearl? No grinding, shaping, or polishing and NOT EVEN A

Meanwhile check:

1 Lucky Texan
I really don't consider flintknapping part of lapidary, but
I think that it is close enough.

Raymond F. Rodebaugh
I think flintknapping is a lapidary art. It is working
stones by hand to make something other than the "rock" it
was when found. Although not slabs or cabs, it is worked
into (usually) a work of art and that is what lapidary arts
are all about.

Rusty Etzwiler
A good friend of mine has made gorgeous necklaces from
mahogany obsidian. Chipped just right the play of colors
suggests "fire". Put on a gold chain, and.....

I grew up in an area famous for it's obsidian sheens, and lack
of bubbles, etc., IE the perfect material for knapping.(Lassan
Creek Obsidian in NE California)

So, I support knapping.

all the best, and then some

Jesse Wellman
Sure, I suspect I'm not the only one out there who has made
the occasional arrowhead. What else can you do with obsidian??
I cheat though and use the saw to slab em and use copper to
flake them.

Ken Wetz in Venice Florida
Our club in Ohio almost always included a Knapper
demonstrating the art at our Shows. It is a craft and art and
I have a knapped knife of obsidian, replicating one that might
have been used by a primitive hunter. If you & Anne make it to
the next meeting, let me know and I will bring it to show. It
is a difficult craft to master and the Native Americans had
many apprentices. Flint Ridge in Ohio was known as "neutral
ground" so that members of hostile tribes could come there to
obtain supplies without being confronted. Yes! it is lapidary.

Ira Abernethy, Jr.
My vote is to include. A little knowledge about primitive
work can't hurt, unless you are old enough to have first hand
knowledge of the stone age :)

Earl English
I always thought that the word LAPIDARY meant anything
dealing with stone working. On that basis, I feel that
flintknapping is as much stone working as carving or cabbing.
So I vote yes.

Bill Collins
I don't know what the difference would be between making a
beautiful object out of a "rock", or making a beautiful
flintknapping object out of a "rock". It seems to be Lapidary
to me! Keep up the good work!
Bob Morgan
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