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1. NEW: Suggestions for list topics
2. BIO: Peter Rowe
3. BIO: Vincent King
4. NEW: Polishing Corundum
5. NEW: How to reply to messages
6. BIO: bsmith
7. BIO: Dick Friesen

Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:08:12 -0400
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Subject: NEW: Suggestions for list topics

Thanks to Brad Smith, here are some topics in which he is interested and
which might generate some questions which are more on-topic:

Polishing the "difficult" materials (tiger's eye, charolite, etc.)
Stabilizing techniques for certain roughs (torquoise, etc.)
Grinding polishing techniques for odd shapes (crosses, hearts, etc.)
Primmers on tumbling, diamond polishing, and other basic techniques
Doublet and triplet fabrication
Jigs and fixtures to help with special projects
Cat's eyes, moon stones and star stones

How about it. Do these raise any questions?

Hale Sweeny
Durham, NC

Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:48:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: BIO

You wanted test posts, so this is as good as any.

Peter Rowe
moderator of the usenet newsgroup,
Graduate Gemologist since 1979
M.F.A. in metals and jewelry from Tyler School of Art in Philadelphia
BS in Art Education (initials I always thought quite appropriate to that

from the university of Wisconsin, Madison, with a specialization in
metals. I've worked as a commercial jeweler and goldsmith since 1975, with
breaks for graduate school etc. and also maintain my own sporadic production
of "art" jewelry or at least, things rather less commercial that those items I
do as an employee for a store...

My first job in jewelry, though, back as a high school senior, was in a local
Madison Wisconsin Rock Shop. Burnies has grown a good deal, and relocated.
But Burnie Franke is still there. I've been involved with lapidary work ever
since, as a cabochon cutter, occasional carver, sometimes facettor, and
general pack rat of the stuff... For the most part, I do lapidary work to
produce the stones I need for my own jewelry rather than as an independent
activity for it's own sake.

Currently, (this week) I'm moving from Detroit, where I've lived since 1976,
out to Seattle. So if any Seattle area rockhounds or jewelers are reading
this, introduce yourselves.

Peter Rowe

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 05:08:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bio

Greetings Fellow Rock-a-holics!

Thank You Hale for making this available to us! As the popularity of cutting
the opaque materials far exceeds that of the clear, you are in for a huge
My name is Vincent King. Based in Phoenix, involved in several Lapidary
related business ventures that have done nothing to ease the curse of
cutting. I look foreward to learning, and sharing my limited knowledge to
those whom I can help. With another 30 years of "productivity" left, I look
foreword to eventually retiring with my wife, and rocks.

Welcome my friends, let the learning begin


Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:57:17 -0400
Subject: New - Polishing Corundum

Hello "Ole Collective Wise Ones";
I have just cut my first Corundum (Star Sapphire and Star Rudy
cabochons). I am happy with the placement of the stars in the
cabochons. The problem is I'm not happy with the final polish. This
is the hardest material I have cut to date, is there a secret to
obtain a high polish? My stages were: 220, 280, 600, 1200, 8000,
14000 & 50000 grit (all diamond). Under water the stones look great.
Do I need to go to 100000, or perhaps I'm just moving too fast through
the final stages (but how do I tell?)? Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated. Thank you.


Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:25:13 -0400
To: <>
Subject: NEW: How to reply to messages

Most of us are familiar with the usual mailing list in which each message
is sent to each subscriber. In that type of list, if the controls are set
up properly by the list operator, then clicking on "Reply to Author" will
send the message back to the list. Many of us have our options set to
":Include message in reply", so that the whole original message is included
in the reply.

This can be very bad with Digests, as the whole Digest would be copied to
the reply. To include a copy of just one original letter in a reply, use
cut-and-paste to do this, and make sure the address is the proper one:

Hale Sweeny
Durham, NC

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:54:19 -0700
Subject: Intro

Congratulations Hale. I think this list will be really useful to us
beginning lapidaries.

On moving from Virginia to Los Angeles about two years ago I decided
it was time to start doing only the things in life that I wanted to do,
so I opted out of the job market, started a home-based business in a
field I find exciting, and am now experimenting with the new-found time
freedom I have. I enjoy helping others create Web sites and start a
business of their own. Let me know off list if anyone has questions
about Web sites or needs a free 800 number for home or business.

Rocks and minerals have always caught my interest. I did an Internet
search which turned up the Rockhounds list, and that led to a
list of local clubs. I joined two - one for its love of desert
collecting field trips, and the second for its excellent shop facility.
I'm doing pretty well with cabs from the easy materials (jasper & agate)
but will need some better advice on some of the others (tiger's eye,
charolite, etc.).

Went out to Quartzite for the first time last February and bought some
Australian opal rough, mostly white Cooper Pedy. Also got a copy of
Paul Downing's book on cutting opal. Have been having a ball learning
the basics of producing solid cabs and doublets. Will be starting my
first triplet soon. I've finished about 20 so far. Am starting on
some of the Spencer opal now and will be looking for a source of the
Lightening ridge material next.

A big problem for me has been what to do with the cabs I've produced.
I've got some pretty jaspers and a box of opals. One use for the jasper
I thought of was a man's belt buckle. But my belts are in the range of
1" to 1

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:15:40 -0700
Subject: Bio

Hello to everyone I hope this works out well for all of us.

To introduce my self, I have been working, and playing, in the lapidary
field for a little over 25 years. At one time I was doing commercial cutting
in a local business I owned while still working full time running a large
computer network at LLNL. It was too much, and I dropped the business. Since
then I have been teaching lapidary, silversmithing, and lost wax casting for
our local gem club and for our local recreation department. I still cut 1000+
stones a year, make a line of custom cast jewelry, and spend two to three
months a year in Arizona as a snow-bird (you can usually find me at
Quartzsite or Tucson). I have written an article for the "Eclectic Lapidary"
on beginning lapidary and am working on one on polishing jade.

I'd like to encourage others to write a short bio. I think it helps to
know something about others in the group.

Dick Friesen

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