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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No. 306 - Friday, October 22, 2004
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Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
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Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Hi everyone,

Here is this week's issue. It is a short one though.
Enjoy and have a great weekend.

Remember that pics cannot be sent to the normal posting address.
They must be sent to owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com for inclusion
in any issue as a link. 

Thurmond
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Index to Today's Digest

01  NEW: rock collecting
02  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
03  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
04  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
05  NEW: Curved laps and Peridot locales
06  NEW: NASA Honors Axel Emmermann for Recovering Priceless MoonRocks


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Message:01

Subject: rock collecting
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:14:12 -0600
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "jake" <efjke@msn.com>

All you need to know for rock collecting

Some "purest" may criticize this listing as to simplistic, regardless of
its scientific merits. Basically all collected material can be divided
into four groups.

Leaveitite (a.k.a. junkite), also known as packalot. By far the most
commonly collected material, club members collect vast amounts yearly.

Somedayite, maybeite. This is much rarer the first group, it may
actually be worth cutting (probably not).

Goodite, niceite. This is fairly rare. It will actually cut stones that
won't make the eyes sore to look at. Only a very tiny amount is
collected each year.

Wowite (a.k.a. retireite), or nameitite. This is the rarest of the rare;
it is actually worth something (even if only by the ton). Sometimes
called name-it-ite as you can occasionally give it a name, as it is new,
or a different variety (skippy's agate or such). Often called retire-ite
as you will now be considered a professional and other club members will
no longer want to talk to you, hence may as well "retire."

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Hi Jake,  That Leavitite sounds like another I know called leaverite as
in leave er right here it aint worth having. LOL

Thurmond

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Message:02

Subject: Re: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics? [Issue No. 305 - Friday, October 15, 2004]
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:02:31 -0400
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: Kreigh Tomaszewski <Kreigh@Tomaszewski.net>

LapidaryArtsDigest wrote:

Hey, I missed the last edition somehow (probably lost in #%!@&* spam),
so I missed the original post. Its always a challenge to identify any
rock from a picture, but I love to try...even if late.

Pic 1: Looks like a shoot or branch on petrified (opalized) wood, but I
think it is really just a fancy jasper
Pic 2: Larvakite.
Pic 3: Charoite (or is that spelled Charolite? didn't look right...)
from Russia
<no Pic 4>
Pic 5: looks like someone got the best stone out with a biscuit cutter
-- interesting technique. Looks kinda like an odd pegmatite variety of
kona dolomite, but I'm sure its something else.
Pic 6: Arizona Wonder Stone, but the yellow is unusually bright.

Pic 7,8: the first two pics look kinda like the exploded fossil geodes
from Indiana.
Pic 9: and this pic makes it look like a quartz river cobble (note the
edge with a chip). But
Pic 10: makes it look like a quartzite conglomerate cobble.
Powerwashing and a couple good (edge) closeups would help (especially on
the last specimen), one with backlighting.

Inclusion of a common reference object (coin, sharpened pencil, finger,
ruler, folded $ bill, etc.) to help judge scale, color, lighting, focus,
and resolution, would help generally.

BTW, Who has the answer sheet?

Kreigh

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Unfortunately there is no answer sheet as these pics came in unidentified.

Thurmond
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Message:03

Subject: Re: Issue No. 304 - Friday, October 8, 2004
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:14:40 +0530
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: Sushila Jain <sushila_jain@eth.net>

Message:04

http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic1
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic2
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic3
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic5
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic6

Above sontes are a variety of Jasper, I think

Below, I dont think it is Coral


The last 4 are of a 25 lb. chunk of coral identified by the member
who would like to know a possible value.

http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic7
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic8
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic9
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic10

Ashish

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Message:04

Subject: mineral id
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 07:47:19 -0400
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Peter In Maine" <kulaczp@pivot.net>

Did anyone else but me see Jesus with his arms spred out in this piece

peter



http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic1

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Hi Peter,  It did kind of resemble HIM didn't it!

Thurmond
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Message:05

Subject: Curved laps
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:00:24 +1300
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Brian Clifford <pesty@paradise.net.nz>

1/Picked up some  second hand laps for my old facetting machine lately,
and some of them are curved (meant to be).
Can someone tell me what application one uses curved laps for. Cabachons
have been suggested , but I am sure someone can help
2/  A point to debate. Have heard that the San Pedro peridot is the best
in the world for facetting, but the odd person says the Kashmiri, and
Burmese is better. What do the people think
Brian pesty@paradise.net.nz

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Hi Brian,  Those laps (if they are dish shaped) are probably for cabbing and star stones
in particular.

Thurmond

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Message:06

Subject: NASA Honors Axel Emmermann for Recovering Priceless MoonRocks
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:33:31 -0400
To:LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>

On May 7,2002, Axel Emmermann, a 'rockhound' in Belgium, received an
offer of 'moonrocks' for sale. As documented at...


http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/magazine/la-tm-moonrocks23jun06.2362043.story?coll=la-headlines-magazine

...(and many! other websites) he responded, contacted "The Authorities"
in the United States, and set up a 'sting'. The result was the arrest,
and conviction, of the criminals who stole the moonrock specimens from
NASA (and destroyed unrecoverable research data), and the recovery of
all of the lost, and priceless, moonrock specimens covering almost every
Lunar Expedition.

You may remember that I started a campaign...

        http://www.Tomaszewski.net/Kreigh/Minerals/MoonRocks.shtml

...to honor Axel for his efforts, and suggested that he should receive
an honarary 'moonrock' specimen, as was given to every 'Head of State'
(shortly after they were collected), as a 'Thank You!' for
single-handedly recovering specimens that are the treasure of all
humanity.

We didn't get Axel a moonrock, but I am most pleased to let you know
that NASA recently responded by presenting an orbited Belgian Flag to
Axel with their thanks...

        http://www.Tomaszewski.net/Images/NASA1.jpg    
        http://www.Tomaszewski.net/Images/NASA2.jpg

I want to thank all of you that contributed to this effort by contacting
NASA and American politicians to ask that Axel be honored for his
contributions.

It is good to see honesty, integrity, and initiative recognized. Please
join me in saluting Axel, and his Flag. The honor is well deserved and
needs to be recognized.

Kreigh Tomaszewski

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Hi Kreigh,  That is cool that they finally rewarded him.

Thurmond

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