Issue No. 305 - Friday, October 15, 2004
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
Hi everyone,

Here is this week's issue. It should have been out
Monday since there were ten post but computer
problems with Windows XP service pack 2 nearly
prevented the publishing of the list even today.

There were many replies to the material ID post.
Compair the answers and see if you agree.

Enjoy and have
a great weekend. 

Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
02  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
03  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
04  RE: Wire Wraping book recommendations.
05  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
06  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
07  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
08  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
09  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
10  NEW: Tourmaline, Places to dig for ?
11  RE: Can anyone identify these materials from their pics?
12  FS: Riker Mounts
13  FS:  - $1 per carat facet rough
14  AD: IMRMC Annual Silent Auction


Subject: Re: Issue No. 304 - Friday, October 8, 2004
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:51:56 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <jon@gearloose.com>


Here are my guesses, form cabbing days.


Petrified wood.


That new purple stuff from Russia. (Before my time..Charoite...sp??)


Red jasper??


Hickory jasper..the only one I am sure of!


Subject: Re: cabbing material ID
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 20:21:28 -0500
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Carol Carter-Wientjes" <lavenderfish@cox.net>

Hi & Here goes.....

http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic1 - ?? no clue
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic2  -  Larvakite, aka
Norwegien moonstone
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic3  -  Charoite
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic5  -  Indian Paint stone
http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic6  -  Apache Scenic
jasper, aka Apache Sage jasper, aka Deming jasper

Hope that helps out, maybe someone else will know the first one. This was


Subject: Re: Issue No. 304 - Friday, October 8, 2004
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:52:23 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Donald Allen <donallen@gwi.net>

1 could be flint
2 appears to be moss agate

I'd like to see the last three on photographed on a pure white
background and notes if there any transparent/transluscent areas.

Be good ot have some instrument readings on these too.



Subject: Wire Wrapping Cut Stones
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 0:49:58 -0400
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: <tam2819@cox.net>

I recommend Wire Artist Magazine, this is where
there have been several designs with prongs to
hold a faceted gem stone. The instructions are
well presented and photographed.

Wire Artist Magazine <www.wag.on.ca> You will
not regret subscribing to this publication.

Helen Goga is the Editor and can recommend back
issues specifically geared toward faceted stones.



Subject: Re: Issue No. 304 - Friday, October 8, 2004
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 22:37:49 -0700
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Don Rogers <Don@Campbell-gemstones.com>

At 07:11 PM 10/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>A member asked that the following old cabbing material be identified if
>I present those pictures in the following links for your viewing and comment.

Pic #1 I'm not sure the name, but it is a common stone.  I have some of it
in my collection.

Pic #2 Spectrolite, or Laboridite

Pic #3 Russian Charolite

Pic #5 Rhodochrosite with a hole in it.  The one above it looks like Mookite

Pic #6 Top Right looks like wonder stone.  Top left is unknown to me but
might be another Wonder Stone
   The lower left may be Mariposaite although there is not enough showing
to be sure.  The other two don't have enough showing to make a call

Pic # 7 to 10 are of a big rock on a kitchen chair with a shoe setting next
to them.  The shoe looks like a size 7 Faded Glory woman's sandal in
white.  The rock looks like it would hurt the toe of a foot fitting the
sandal if it was dropped on it.

Sorry, but that is the best I can do tonight.



Subject: Unidentified cabbing material
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 01:55:41 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Phillip L Stonebrook <plstonebrook@juno.com>


The unidentified cabbing materials look like:

#1 Wyoming Picture Jasper
#2 Psilomelane - a soft manganese oxide
#3 Multi colored agate if 7 in hardness, poor quality charoite if about 5
in hardness
#5 I don't have a clue on the slab with the hole in it, but the slab just
above that looks like petrified wood
#6 Various colors of agate and jasper without distinctive names

Just guesses really, as it's hard to tell when not seeing them in person.
It would help if you listed the hardness.

Good luck....
Phil in Florida


Subject: Re: Issue No. 304 - Friday, October 8, 2004
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: joe piz <pizzij@yahoo.com>


> http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic1

mara mamba / australian tiger eye?

> http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic2

norwegian moonstone / larvekite (sp?)

> http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic3

mediocre charoite

> http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic5


> http://www.gemcutters.org/showcase/images/katb/pic6

top two, from leftapache sage jasper, wonderstone or orbicular

green looks like mariposite?


Subject: Re: Issue No. 304 - Friday, October 8, 2004
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 10:25:58 -0700
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "maclellan@telus.net" <maclellan@telus.net>

Pic 2 appears to be Larvakite, and pic 3 is Charoite.

Subject: Re: Issue No. 304 - Friday, October 8, 2004 - stone ids and "coral" pricing
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:13:04 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Jim Small <jsmall47@earthlink.net>

Thurmond -
Of the slabs shown I believe that number 3 is charoite, and number 5 is
Nevada rhyolite from the Fallon area. I don't think that the "coral" is
coral - it more resembles stromatolite, which many folks mistake for coral.
It's value will be pretty much dependant on getting first a proper
identification,and second some idea of its quality as cutting material. As
a specimen I don't think it has much value, but I may be wrong.

Jim Small
Small Wonders Lapidary


Subject: Tourmaline
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:39:36 -0700
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Gail Bumala" <laboom@cascadeaccess.com>

Dear Friends,
    I've been out of the loop for a while, trying to keep up with posts
and writing my masters thesis. I was wondering if anyone knows of any
place to go dig for tourmalines-preferably in the U.S. 

Gail Bumala


Subject: RE: Issue No. 304 - Friday, October 8, 2004
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:39:58 +0000
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Carl Childers" <cachilde@hotmail.com>

the pictures in
fridays newsletter  ; ; pic 2  Looks like blue pearl granite  --  I remember
it from a selection batch of granite samples in my practice.  pic 6 left not
a very har material - I have some, but do not know its name.pic 6 right 
wonderstone a common jasper.

thelatter four pics look like some sea life got balled up in a wad and
petrified  ////////???????


Subject: Riker Mounts - For Sale
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:38:01 -0400
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Robert Edgar, Jr" <edgarr@mccc.edu>

We have been cleaning and taking stock prior to starting our classes for
the Fall.
We have several sizes of Riker Mounts (new), in stock, that we wish to
'dump' cheaply (plus shipping).

12  -  8 x 14.5 inches  -  normal retail around $10     -  will sell for
$6.50 each
 9   -  12 x 16  inches  -       "         "        "     $10    
-          "        $5.00 each
 3   -    6 x 5    inches  -       "         "        "     $4.50  -   
      "        $3.00 each

If anyone is interested please contact us offline.  We will ship UPS
ground anywhere in U.S.
We accept Visa, Mastercard, Discover, or Money Order.


Subject: FS - $1 per carat facet rough
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:56:31 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: noel <noel@roughtocut.com>

Hi Thurmond & list,

I need to make room for new inventory so we are having a *$1 per carat
parcel *sale. We are offering premium quality rough in sizes ranging
from 2ct to 2+ grams, all for $1 per carat. We have medium dark Aqua,
Morganite, Apatite, Chrysoberyl, Spessartite garnet, Rhodolite garnet,
cab & semi-facet Tsavorite garnet, Mexican demantoid garnet, Pink,
black, purple  star sapphire, cab Ruby, Peridot, Kunzite, Tourmaline in
light pink, bi-color, grass green, seafoam, Indicolite, Oregon opal in
orange & yellow. This is not low grade material we are dumping, it is
fine quality rough. If you are tired of the cost of good rough these
days you should check out this sale. We will run the sale as long as the
rough lasts. As it sells out it will be dropped from the page. Check it
out the SPECIALS page at http://www.roughtocut.com/

BTW- I don't know if you were able to get identification on the pictures
posted in issue No. 304 but pic #5 look an awful lot like low grade
rhodonite, pic #6 looks like the wonder stone (rhyolite?) I collected
years ago in Utah & #1 looks like jasper from the same locality.

Also for  Mapples54@wmconnect.com  looking for a book on wire wrapping
with an eye to gem setting check out the library section on wire
wrapping at Bob's rockshop  at:

Noel Rowe
Rough To Cut
Ph: 866-755-5367


Subject: AD: IMRMC Annual Silent Auction
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:26:03 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Kreigh Tomaszewski <Kreigh@Tomaszewski.net>

The Indian Mounds Rock and Mineral Club is holding their Annual Silent
Auction starting at 7 pm on 19 October 2004 in Wyoming, Michigan, at
Wesley Park United Methodist Church's Fellowship Hall on the corner of
Michael and 32nd Street. The last table closes around 8:50.

In addition to many rock and mineral specimens there will be a variety
of lapidary equipment on auction at a special table. Bring your 'silver

I hope some of you can join me and my Club at this annual event that
always has some suprise specimens and good bargains.

Kreigh Tomaszewski

P.S., Please contact me off-list if you have any questions about this

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