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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No. 288 - Friday, June 11, 2004
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Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
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Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Hi all,

Here is this weeks list. If you want to see the
list more often then POST something. It takes
TEN post to put the list out.

Thurmond

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Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: Big Quartz
02  RE: New: Wax casting patterns
03  NEW: Daily list. Not without more participation!
04  RE: The Gemmery Site
05  NEW:  Lapidary Material in Alaska
06  RE: Wax casting patterns
07  RE: Fossicking Around the Globe
08  NEW: queston about meteorite
09  NEW: Vargas Pol-A-Gem laps available again.

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Message:01

Subject: Re: Big Quartz
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:19:53 -0500
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Criss Morgan" <crissmorgan@bellsouth.net>

Wayne,
             I bought some large Quartz crystals from Stuart Schmidt at the
Sweet Surrender Quartz mine in Mt. Ida a couple of years ago that were very
nice, except for a couple of small internal flaws. I told him it didn't
matter if the crystals were damaged externally since I was making small
spheres or faceting large stones with them.
 The crystals without any external damage are extremely expensive since they
are sold as specimens or to the touchy feely healer crowd.
 The crystals he sent to me are about 2 to 3 inches in diameter.
 To visit his website go to http://www.arcrystalmine.com .
 Let me know if this is what you're looking for. If not, I know of a couple
more places to look.
                                           Criss

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Message:02

Subject: RE: New: Wax casting patterns
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:42:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Terri Collier <scollier@sbcglobal.net>

Randy, you might want to try http://www.waxpatterns.com. They have a
great selection of patterns available.  They also post offers for wax collections
on eBay from time to time.
 
Good luck

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Message:03

Subject: Re: Issue No. 286 - Friday, May 21, 2004
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:00:00 -0600
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Jack Schmidling" <arf@mc.net>


>Our site's Google search WILL search ALL of our archives. Just another
example of lack
of control over anything turned over to sites such as Yahoo.

I think it's a forest vs trees problem here.

To me, the value of the internet is to get as many answers to a question as
quickly as possible and searching through archives is about the most tedious
method of getting answers I can think of.

The only thing slower is a list that comes out once a week.  This insures a
minimum of two weeks turnaround for a question.  The USFG list is about 2
days and I have searched in vain for yahoo, google and usenet groups but
they all are moderated to the point of uselessness.

What happend to the internet since Al Gore invented it?

js

Astronomy, Beer, Cheese, Gems, Sausage http://schmidling.netfirms.com



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Hi Jack,

The reason that the list does not come out daily is two fold.
#1  The membership of nearly 1100 individuals do not post frequently enough.
#2  My list is not automated like yahoo. I have to produce it by hand to achieve
the look and feel I am looking for.

It seems to me that the membership is getting their lapidary information needs
met by other list. The USFG for example (I am a member) has a lot more NON-FACETING
talk these days than ever before. Bob Kellers List also has a fair amount of traffic
so it seems to me that my list is not used because it is no longer usefull when members
are getting their "daily lapidary fix" from other locations.

It is just too much work to produce a list each day if there is very little content.
The list will come out daily if there are at least 10 post. That is not an unrealistic number
as it represents less than 1 percent of the membership.

Thurmond

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Message:04

Subject: For what it's worth
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 14:56:23 EDT
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: JerilynPtr@aol.com

>http://www.the-gemmery.com/Off-the-Dop.htm
         For what it's worth,>

Mike Kelly your site is worth a lot! Your gem data is very well organized and
therefore usable.  I am referring my students there.  Thank you for sharing.
Oh, the stone is beautiful as well.  It is a nice design for that color.

Jerilyn

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Message:05

Subject: Lapidary Material in Alaska
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:30:31 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Don Sommerfield" <dlsomm@hotmail.com>

I will be making a tour to Alaska later this month and I would  appreciate
any tips  that any of our co-lapidaries can give me on places to collect or
buy lapidary material. I primarily do cabachons ( I also teach). We will
stop in Fairbanks, Ankorage, Denalliy park, Alyska, Seward, Juneau, Skagway
and Ketchikan.  Contact me on site or by e-mail.
Don Sommerfield     dlsomm@hotmail.com

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Message:06

From: Reg Hodges [mailto:rghodges@bigpond.com]
Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2004 3:06 PM
To: LapidaryArtsDigest
Subject: Wax casting patterns

Randy wrote:

Can anyone suggest another supplier of wax patterns (particularly for
rings) that I can use to create nice mountings for my faceted beauties?


You could try this supplier Randy.  Usual disclaimers apply.
Unfortunately I cannot find a website or email for her.
However here are her snail mail and phone numbers.

Elke Tremewen
7 Nukara Court
FRANKSTON 3199
Australia   Phone: +61 3 9789 0167

OR

PO Box 639
FRANKSTON 3199
Australia

Regards

Reg Hodges

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Message:07

Subject: Fossicking Around the Globe
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 0:10:08 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com "LapidaryArtsDigest"
From: <tam2819@cox.net>

Russell,
Ask and ye shall receive. I have opened my home to several on this list as
well as others. The visits have been bery enjoyable.

I have even had a guest from Oz.

I believe the suggestion is very viable. There are several good digging sites
within a 100 or so miles from here. I know others feel as we do, and nothing
ventured, nothing gained.

From my former life/avocation, it was rather common to stay in other's homes
rather than hotels/motels.

I have a Hall's half paid for in Adelaide and need to get over there to take
care of my obligation and carry that gem back home.

Terrie

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Message:08

From: "brunoronsmans" <brunoronsmans@versatel.be>
To: <owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: meteorite


i have a queston about meteorite
i have some plates of meteorite (nickel and iron) showing the typical
pattern but although i can make that pattern reappear after filing or
sanding (using HNO3 40 %) i tried to weld the plate to 18crt gold and if
the welding succeeded , the pattern disappeared and the acid does not work
anymore
is there a reason or is there another receipe i should use
thanks in advance for the help
bruno ronsmans

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Hi Bruno,  Sounds like the heat of welding destroyed the crystaline grain
structure to me. I could be wrong though.

Thurmond

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Message:09

Subject: Vargas Pol-A-Gem laps
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 16:09:33 -0700
To: "faceters digest" <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "The Newmans" <gemartserv@dc.rr.com>

Hello faceters.  As mentioned several months ago it takes certain 
ambient conditions to properly produce Glenn's versatile polishing laps. 
 We have had such conditions lately here in the California desert and 
I'm pleased to announce that both Cerium Oxide and Alumina-B Pol-A-Gems 
are coming off the production line in both 6" and 8" sizes. So far, 
while we consume existing inventory of raw materials, the prices remain 
the same as last year :  $64 and $74 for the 6 and 8 inch respectively 
including postage in the US.  California residents please add $4.65 and 
$5.43 respectively for tax.
Most faceters are familiar with them. Glenn describes them in his third 
and forth edtions of "Faceting For Amateurs".  I have testimonials from  
very happy users and have a few people already on the waiting list. They 
will not cause scratches and produce superb polish, particularly the 
Cerium Oxide on quartz ,sunstone, opal, tanzanite, benitoite etc. The 
Alumina-B is excellent on beryl, particularly emerald where frequently 
surface flaws are present and can trap oxide polish.  With the polishing 
compound built in you only need to add water. There is no slurry. Only 
occasionally a small addition of powder is helpful for large tables. 20
My own laps are about a dozen years old and I fully expect them to last 
at least that long again. 20
To receive yours, please send check or MO to :   Gemart Services,       
36101 Bob Hope Dr. E5, #105,     Rancho Mirage,  CA    92270
Happy, slick and fast polishing to you.  Jerry Newman

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