Issue No. 287 - Friday, June 4, 2004
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
http://www.gemcutters.org or
Hi all,

I was out of town on short notice for
the holiday last weekend so there was
as you have probably guessed, no list.
But I have a good one for you today.
Enjoy and please post much and often.


Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: The Facet Shoppe
02  RE: Places you may wish to visit on the web
03  NEW: NMFG website
04  RE: Silkstone
05  NEW:  Just a thought...
06  NEW:  Brazil's gem  trading center video
07  NEW: New design in August Lapidary Journal
08  FS: 1 used UT and 3new mach in their box
09  NEW: Wax casting patterns
10  NEW: opalised jasper
11  WTB: Big Quartz


Subject: Correction on Tourmalike
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:20:07 EDT
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: JerilynPtr@aol.com

  Here is the real "scoop" from Barbara:

Hi and Thanks Jerilyn for all the good words about the Facet Shoppe. We
didn't pay her HONEST! LOL  Want to clarify a couple things hopefully.
Tourmalike does a pink to green color change and it is a wonderful
synthetic to cut. It isn't from Australia however but was in the same case
at the show, so I understand the confusion.  However you were referring to
the Crystinite that does have a color change from peach to green and
another that does a pinkish/purple to blueish/purple.  It is also their
(Crystinite) material that is Bi colored blue on one side and orangish
color on the other, it tends to throw a third color of green when cut.  You
can see pieces of it on our specials page right now.  They are also
producing many other colors that are great fun to facet and easy to polish.
I think John Dowling had a bit about the material at the end of this page.
We will have the material at the Faceter's symposium at Mt Vernon at the
end of this month.  As always we look forward to this time of getting to
share and meet everyone, see old friends and make new ones.
         Thanks and happy faceting!
         Barbara Franke


Subject: Re: Places you may wish to visit on the web
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:46:38 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: mskelly <mskelly@gte.net>

Another web site you may care to visit is
which has lots of hard data about gemstones, individually by stone and in
tables by type (RI, Hardness, Specific Gravity, etc.). It also has some 16
or 17 birthstone lists and folklore about various stones. Plus a bookstore
and links to suppliers and other gem-related sites. And more.
It also has an unlinked page showing the most recent stone I've
cut, such as, currently, a padparadscha-colored synthetic (flame fusion)
sapphire cut according to Jeff Graham's "Hor-I-Zon Sun" design.
         For what it's worth,
                 mike in West Coast Florida and webmaster

Virus-free by Norton


Subject: NMFG website
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:08:57 -0600
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Steve and Nancy Attaway <attaway@highfiber.com>

Dear Thurmond and Faceters,

  I would like your membership to also include the New Mexico Faceters
Guild website in their lists of pertinent faceting websites. The New
Mexico Faceters Guild website is a another good place where very
interesting information relating to faceting and gemology may be
obtained. My husband, Steve recently updated the site. We cordially
invite you all to visit the website. You may access the New Mexico
Faceters Guild website by typing: www.attawaygems.com/NMFG or just click
on the yellow New Mexico Faceters Guild badge that appears on the first
page of the www.attawaygems.com website. If an editor of a faceting
guild newsletter would like to re-print an article from the New Mexico
Facetor, permission is given provided that credit to the author
accompanies the article. The New Mexico Faceters Guild holds the opinion
that information should be shared to assist others in their faceting
endeavors and to increase the knowledge and the understanding of gems
and faceting. Thank you very much.

  Nancy Attaway


Subject: Re: Issue No. 286 - Friday, May 21, 2004
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 22:39:33 -0400
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: Kreigh Tomaszewski <Kreigh@Tomaszewski.net>

LapidaryArtsDigest wrote:
> __________________________________________________________
> Message:04
> Subject: Silkstone
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 22:14:25 -0500
> To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
> From: "Wayne S. Barnett" <wayneb@ev1.net>
> I have recently come across a rock called silkstone from Minnesota.  Does
> anyone know anything about it, what it is, and if it is available anywhere?
> Thanks
> Wayne
> Houston, getting hot and humid
> ===================================


Silkstone is a name for poor quality binghamite where the goethite
included in a quartz matriz is not oriented in parallel. Binghamite is
chatoyent, and is also found in the Cayuna Iron Range in Minnesota. Both
are trade names as neither are an accepted mineral species. A quick
search on Google for 'Minnesota Silkstone" or "Minnesota Binghamite"
found several dealers offering rough, slabs, and finished stones of both
varieties of rock.



Subject: NEW Just a thought...
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 08:20:44 +1000 (E. Australia Standard Time)
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Russ And Nat" <russandnat@optusnet.com.au>

Hi everyone, Russell here, I was thinking the other day that it would be
nice to visit other states/countries to fossick for gemstones.  I thought
that a kind of "foreign information exchange" program might work.  What I
would propose is that someone wanting to visit another state/country would
post their destination of choice, with people already living in that area
reply with information regarding accomodation, places to visit, gemfields to
visit etc.

I am not proposing that people offer their own residence as accomodation,
merely just a little "local knowledge", as this could make the difference
between a good trip and a great one.

Any Hoo, it was just a thought... any one living in Brazil would probably
suddenly become VERY popular, hehe




Subject: Re: Issue No. 286 - Friday, May 21, 2004
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:46:07 -0300
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: David Stanley Epstein <davids@cdlto.com.br>

   For those who are interested in what it is like to buy in Brazil's
gem  trading center, we put a video on the entry page of our web site.
There is also a part showing how we cut in our lapidation. The website
is www.gembuying.com


Subject: New design in August Lapidary Journal
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 21:34:34 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.net>

I have a new design coming in the August issue of Lapidary Journal called Silvan
Eight. It is a multifacet octagon to honor Silvan Lidovitch.  If you think there have
been too many beads in Lapidary Journal maybe things  are changing. They have
started a new bead magazine called "Step by Step Beads" and I think there will be
much more lapidary  content in LJ now.  Enjoy your weekend and join us at the
Northwest International Faceters Symposium if you are in the western Washington
area. There will be some very special displays of stones cut by silent faceters. John
and Barbara have a good  writeup on their Facet Shoppe website at:


They have a new page up just for Cristinite if you need some
encouragement to buy some rough.

Dan Clayton


Subject: 1 used UT and 3new mach in their box
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 22:40:47 EDT
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Joeala96@aol.com

Yo Thurmond
Please list this for a good friend and faceter.
My good friend went to meet his maker on 1May 04. I told Mrs Hedges that I
will post this to the list/
Eddie Hedges was the Ultra Tec dealer for the South Texas area.
These machines are for sale , contact Mrs Dorothy Hedges at 956-585-9811 or
by mail
1600 Dunlap, Mission, Tx. 78572
Joe Mangelsdorf
McAllen, Tx


Subject: New: Wax casting patterns
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:50:30 -0600
To: "Faceters Digest" <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Randy" <The-Jeweler@lifesnectar.com>

Recently I made the unpleasant discovery that Swest, my realiable wax
pattern supplier, was bought out last year by Stuller (I've been out of
commission for a little over a year due to health problems). Stuller,
although an excellent company, has apparently chosen NOT to continue the
Swest line of waxes.

Can anyone suggest another supplier of wax patterns (particularly for
rings) that I can use to create nice mountings for my faceted beauties?



Subject: Re: opalised jasper
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 21:44:15 -0600
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "jake" <efjke@msn.com>

As some on this list cab, including some faceters, I thought you might want
to look at something very unusual. Have you ever heard of opalised jasper?
This really caught my attention, wish I had some to cut. Take a look while
its sill there (hopefully the picture will be up for a while even if this
lot is sold) http://www.tz-gems.com/tanzanian-gem-tenders/t/ptr46.html


Subject: Big Quartz
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 22:36:34 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Wayne S. Barnett" <wayneb@ev1.net>

Sometime in the past a member of this group posted information on a supplier
in Mt Ida that supplies large pieces of clean quartz at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know who that supplier is and do they still have that quality of
material available?   I am looking for fairly large pieces of clean quartz
for a couple of projects.  Any help would be appriciated.


Houston Tx








PERSONALS (General Lapidary and Faceting)


Lurking is fine, but participation is better for learning !
Post something from your experiences in gemcutting today!

Not a Funny today but an observance instead.


Interesting facts about the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and the Sentinels of
the Third United States Infantry Regiment "Old Guard".

1. How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the
Unknowns and why?

21 steps.  It alludes to the twenty-one gun salute, which is the highest
honor given any military or foreign dignitary.

2. How long does he hesitate after his about face to begin his return walk
and why?

21 seconds, for the same reason as answer number 1.

3. Why are his gloves wet?

His gloves are moistened to prevent his losing his grip on the rifle.

4. Does he carry his rifle on the same shoulder all the time, and if not,
why not?  No, he carries the rifle on the shoulder away from the tomb.
After his march across the path, he executes an about face and moves the
rifle to the outside shoulder.

5. How often are the guards changed?

Guards are changed every thirty minutes, twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a

6. What are the physical traits of the guard limited to?

For a person to apply for guard duty at the tomb, he must be between 5'10"
and 6' 2" tall and his waist size cannot exceed 30".

Other requirements of the Guard:

They must commit 2 years of life to guard the tomb, live in a barracks under
the tomb, and cannot drink any alcohol on or off duty FOR THE REST OF THEIR
LIVES.  They cannot swear in public FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES and cannot
disgrace the uniform {fighting} or the tomb in any way.

After TWO YEARS, the guard is given a wreath pin that is worn on their lapel
signifying they served as guard of the tomb.  There are only 400 presently
worn.  The guard must obey these rules for the rest of their lives or give
up the wreath pin.

The shoes are specially made with very thick soles to keep the heat and cold
from their feet.  There are metal heel plates that extend to the top of the
shoe in order to make the loud click as they come to a halt.  There are no
wrinkles, folds or lint on the uniform.  Guards dress for duty in front of a
full-length mirror.

The first SIX MONTHS of duty a guard cannot talk to anyone, nor watch TV.
All off duty time is spent studying the 175 notable people laid to rest in
Arlington National Cemetery.  A guard must memorize who they are and where
they are interred.  Among the notables are: President Taft, Joe E. Lewis
{the boxer} and Medal of Honor winner Audie Murphy, {the most decorated
soldier of WWII} of Hollywood fame.  Every guard spends FIVE HOURS A DAY
getting his uniforms ready for guard duty.

The Sentinels Creed: My dedication to this sacred duty is total and
wholehearted.  In the responsibility bestowed on me never will I falter.
And with dignity and perseverance my standard will remain perfection.
Through the years of diligence and praise and the discomfort of the elements
 I will walk my tour in humble reverence to the best of my ability.  It is
he who commands the respect I protect.  His bravery that made us so proud.
Surrounded by well meaning crowds by day alone in the thoughtful peace of
night, this soldier will in honored glory rest under my eternal vigilance.

More Interesting facts about the Tomb of the Unknowns itself:

The marble for the Tomb of the Unknowns was furnished by the Vermont Marble
Company of Danby, Vt.  The marble is the finest and whitest of American
marble, quarried from the Yule Marble Quarry located near Marble, Colorado
and is called Yule Marble.  The Marble for the Lincoln memorial and other
famous buildings was also quarried there.

The Tomb consists of seven pieces of rectangular marble: Four pieces in sub
base; weight - 15 tons; One piece in base or plinth; weight - 16 tons;
 One piece in die; weight - 36 tons; One piece in cap; weight - 12 tons; Carved
on the East side (the front of the Tomb, which faces Washington,

D. C.) is a composite of three figures, commemorative of the spirit of the
Allies of World War I.

In the center of the panel stands Victory (female).

On the right side, a male figure symbolizes Valor.

On the left side stands Peace, with her palm branch to reward the devotion
and sacrifice that went with courage to make the cause of righteousness

The north and south sides are divided into three panels by Doric pilasters.
In each panel is an inverted wreath.

On the west, or rear, panel (facing the Amphitheater) is inscribed:


The first Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was a sub base and a base or plinth.
It was slightly smaller than the present base.  This was torn away when the
present Tomb was started Aug. 27, 1931.  The Tomb was completed and the area
opened to the public 9:15 a.m. April 9, 1932, without any ceremony.

Cost of the Tomb: $48,000 Sculptor: Thomas Hudson Jones Architect: Lorimer
Rich Contractors: Hagerman & Harris, New York City Inscription: Author

(Interesting Commentary)

The Third Infantry Regiment at Fort Myer has the responsibility for
providing ceremonial units and honor guards for state occasions, White House
social functions, public celebrations and interments at Arlington National
Cemetery and standing a very formal sentry watch at the Tomb of the Unknowns

The public is familiar with the precision of what is called "walking post"
at the Tomb.  There are roped off galleries where visitors can form to
observe the troopers and their measured step and almost mechanically, silent
rifle shoulder changes.  They are relieved every hour in a very formal drill
that has to be seen to be believed.

Some people think that when the Cemetery is closed to the public in the
evening that this show stops.  First, to the men who are dedicated to this
work, it is no show.  It is a "charge of honor."  The formality and
precision continues uninterrupted all night.  During the nighttime, the
drill of relief and the measured step of the on-duty sentry remain unchanged
from the daylight hours.  To these men, these special men, the continuity of
this post is the key to the honor and respect shown to these honored dead,
symbolic of all unaccounted for American combat dead.  The steady rhythmic
step in rain, sleet, snow, hail, heat and cold must be uninterrupted.
Uninterrupted is the important part of the honor shown.

Recently, while you were sleeping, the teeth of hurricane Isabel came
through this area and tore hell out of everything.  We had thousands of
trees down, power outages, traffic signals out, roads filled with downed
limbs and "gear adrift" debris.  We had flooding and the place looked like
it had been the impact area of an off-shore bombardment.

The Regimental Commander of the U.S. Third Infantry sent word to the
nighttime Sentry Detail to secure the post and seek shelter from the high
winds, to ensure their personal safety.


During winds that turned over vehicles and turned debris into projectiles,
the measured step continued.  One fellow said "I've got buddies getting shot
at in Iraq who would kick my butt if word got to them that we let them down.
 I sure have no intention of spending my Army career being known as the
idiot who couldn't stand a little light breeze and shirked his duty."  Then
he said something in response to a female reporters question regarding silly
purposeless personal risk... "I wouldn't expect you to understand.  It's an
enlisted man's thing."  God bless the rascal... In a time in our nation's
history when spin and total b.s. seem to have become the accepted
coin-of-the-realm, there beat hearts - the enlisted hearts we all knew and
were so damn proud to be a part of - that fully understand that devotion to
duty is not a part-time occupation.  While we slept, we were represented by
some damn fine men who fully understood their post orders and proudly went
about their assigned responsibilities unseen, unrecognized and in the finest
tradition of the American Enlisted Man.  Folks, there's hope.  The spirit
that George S. Patton, Arliegh Burke and Jimmy Doolittle left us .. survives

On the ABC evening news, it was reported recently that, because of the
dangers from Hurricane Isabel approaching Washington, DC, the military
members assigned the duty of guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier were
given permission to suspend the assignment.  They refused.  "No way, Sir!"

Soaked to the skin, marching in the pelting rain of a tropical storm, they
said that guarding the Tomb was not just an assignment; it was the highest
honor that can be afforded to a service person.  The tomb has been patrolled
continuously, 24/7, since 1930.

Very, very proud of our soldiers in uniform!


At the end of this life, the only things you can take
to the other side are the consequences of the actions
of this side.


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