Issue No. 264 - Friday, January 23, 2004
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
http://www.gemcutters.org or
Hi All,

Good list today, Keep those post coming in.


Index to Today's Digest

01  NEW: Tumbling Sapphire
02  RE: Directions to OPLC hob nob
03  RE: All-U-Need polishing
04  NEW: Freeform Cab cutter Needed
05  RE: Tucson Get Together
06  RE: Graves modification
07  NEW: Fac-ette parts and Disk Identification
08  NEW: Info Request for Stabilizing Turquoise
09  NEW: Faceters Symposium 2003 TAPES
10  NEW: I've been away but now I'm back


Subject: Tumbling Sapphire
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:05:11 -0800
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "two" <two@eskimo.com>

Has anyone a good way to tumble polish sapphire? I have seen finished
stone but have not done any myself.


Subject: Directions to OPLC hob nob
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:45:52 -0500
To: "Lapidary Arts-faceting" <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Rock Peddler" <rockpeddler@comcast.net>

"Last year I came to the lapidary meeting in Tucson, but it took my friend
and I hours to find the club.  Please send instructions for people who have
no GPS. I do look forward to seeing all you gem folks again.  Regards from
the very cold Naomi"

The clubhouse can be difficult to find. Here is a link with directions:
This year the Hob Nob is Feb 7th, a Saturday night which should make it even
easier for more people to attend. See you there.

Jeanne Ridolfi - Rock Peddler
www.bestrough.com - See our new LOW prices for synthetics
800-416-4348; M-F, 10:30am - 4:30pm, eastern time


Subject: All-U-Need polishing
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:50:45 -0500
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Denney Wilson <denney.wilson@att.net>

    I have used the All-U-Need(tm) cabbing machine with fairly good
luck.  However, for polishing, DO NOT USE  the diamond material in the
syringe!  I have found that the best way to polish on these soft felt
pads is to use 14K diamond spray, made for faceting!  The first time, it
takes about 1/10 of a bottle.  However, after that, little is needed.
 Just put a little extender fluid on the pad to lube the stone and away
you go.  Good luck.

Denney L. Wilson
Wilson Lapidary


Subject: new
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:39:28 -0800
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: mrdavid40@msn.com

I am looking for some one to cut free form stones for me if you are
Interested please Email me at mrdavid40@msn.com please send pics of
gemstones that you cut and I will pick from them  I will supply the
rough thanks
www.jewelersdump.com  www.roughdump.com


Subject: Tucson Get Together
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:28:51 -0800 (PST)
To: LAPIDARY ARTS & FACETERS DIGEST <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Glenn Klein <glennklein@yahoo.com>

Hi Naomi in cold New York....and everyone:
The gathering of young and old faceters at the OPLC (Old Pueblo Lapidary Club),
on the evening of February 7th at 6 to 9 PM....located at 3118 N. Dale Avenue
in Tucson, can be attended by anyone who is interested....as far as I know. 
You do not have to be a faceter.  But the rest of us faceters hope that you are.  
That way, we know you are a great person and one who it will be a joy to talk to.
Check out the OPLC site            www.lapidaryclub.org/         for information
and a good map, so that you can find the place.  It is a bit difficult to find, but
you will get there if you pay attention to the map.
I am not a part of those like Art Kavan and Dieter Irmischer who are putting on
the evening of fun for us visitors of Tucson.  I am just hoping to get more of
you other people to attend.  It really is none of my business to be promoting
the OPLC gathering, but what the heck....I know Art and Dieter will not get
too mad at me.  They are two of those really great faceters that we have with
us these days, and I think we should thank them for arranging this opportunity
for we visitors.
Glenn Klein
Lake Forest, CA USA
Broken overcast out there this morning.  Bet it does not get much above 70. 
That is too cold for me.


Subject: RE: Graves modification
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:52:02 -0500
To: 'paul' <pnoyes@comcast.net>
From: Tony Pope <Tony@stoffel.com>
Cc: "'lapidary@caprock-spur.com'" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>

Hi Paul,
Dave Woolley was the author that posted the item concerning Graves
alignment. I offered to assist. Please reply to the original post. I will
forward this email.

> ----------
> From: paul
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:15 AM
> To: tony@stoffel.com
> Subject: Graves modification
> Importance: High
> Dear Tony

> Im a 100% disabled navy vet and i have a Graves mark IV I have tryed to
> align as per many books
> and still no go. I would like to try Dave's Alingment tool. I live in
> Orange Park Fl. Could you pass on my email to him.
> Thanks for your help

> Paul Noyes
> AT1(NAC/AW)  U.S. Navy Retired


Subject: Fac-ette parts and Disk Identification
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:18:46 -0700
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "HEIDI NOLAN" <1heidin@msn.com>

I've been lurking for years.  I moved from Fairbanks, Alaska to
Santaquin, Utah about a year and a half ago and my shop at long last is
nearly finished.  I have a Diamante still new in the box and a 1976
Fac-ette that I picked up last year as a second machine.  I've spent the
last couple of days cleaning it up.  Since preforming has been a hot
subject the last few days I thought it would be a good time to bring
this up.  This machine came with ten cams to be used to control the
shapes of the cuts, or so says the manual.  It appears to me they would
work well for preforming.  I noticed that this method doesn't seem to be
used with the Gem Master II.  Does anyone know why Fac-ette stopped
using these cams?  Also Fac-ette tells me they no longer make or supply
parts or accessories  for these older machines.  Does anyone know a good
source?  Last but not least this machine came with eight laps.  Two are
Crystalites.  A brown one and a tin one.  I have no idea what the brown
one might be and the tin one is pretty scarred.  Is there a way to
resurface the tin or should I just opt for a new one?  By the way if any
of you are near to Santaquin I could sure use a mentor.
Alan 1heidin@msn.com  


Subject: Info Request
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:32:45 -0800 (PST)
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Phil\(NM\)" <goldpnr@yahoo.com>

I am trying to find the proceedure and formula for how
to stabilize turquoise and other soft stones for
cutting and cabbing. Does anyone out there know of any
books, webpages, etc. where I can get printed
information? Or maybe even if someone is willing to
type a lot, write up the proceedure for me to follow?

Phil in Albuquerque
email: goldpnr@yahoo.com


Subject: Faceters Symposium 2003 TAPES
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:01:51 -0800 (PST)
To: LAPIDARY ARTS & FACETERS DIGEST <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Glenn Klein <glennklein@yahoo.com>

Hi All:
As those who attended the Faceters Symposium 2003 in Ventura, CA
last June know, we of the Symposium staff again tried to record the
speaker presentations on video tape.  I promised that I would get back
to all of those who requested copies of the tapes when I had pricing
information available. 
I am finally getting back to those interested faceters....although it sure
has taken me long enough to carry through with my promise.
At the first Faceters Symposium 1996 we used our own Guild (FGSC)
video camera setup.  I am sorry to say the results were terrible.  Next,
at the Faceters Symposium 2000 we tried with two cameras and a
wired in MIC, but again, the results were not acceptable.  Last June at
Ventura we had four or five cameras shooting a variety of different tape
sizes.  My camera I had set up on a tripod to just stay centered on the
speaker rostrum.  I had my small hand MIC hanging straight down to
the floor where there was a speaker set up for the attendees to hear
better.  The other cameras were on two more tripods, and also one of
our staff hand-held a camera.  The final results continued our zero successes.
The FGSC (Faceters Guild of Southern California) has sponsored each
of the three Symposiums.  We Symposium staff members truly tried to get
good results.  We used hand-held MICs for our speakers and lapel MIC's. 
But along with our different tape formats (mine an old large cassette, and
the other camera's using the smaller cassettes), we had trouble with the
sound from the MIC's getting synchronized with the video tape.  There
were delayed echoes, etc.
Staff member Gene Oesterreich especially, tried to get all audio and video
edited onto a good Master tape.  After lots of work on his part and the work
of the outside Editor, we came up with results that are not good enough. 
The audio is not clear enough for us older hard-hearing faceters to understand,
and the audio is not synchronized with the video action.
So, the FGSC has decided to quite working on the Tape project.  Be sure of
one thing, we gave it our best shot.
My advice to those who want to do a good job at a Symposium of the future
is, hire a professional person who will supply the proper equipment and know-how
to get excellent results.  Hire that person with the understanding that if the video
and audio are not good enough for the average middle aged faceter (that does
not include me here) to see and understand the speaker on the tape.....the work
will be done free!
Sorry for the long story about a long-time project that the FGSC has tried to do well.
Glenn Klein
Ex-Faceters Symposium 2003 Chairman
Lake Forest, CA USA


Subject: I've been away but now I'm back!
To: owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Stephen Kotlowski <stkkotlowski.ny@netzero.net>

I've been away from the site for some time now and have finally
caught up with the current LAD.   I would like to contribute to the Digest
again and I have some positive things to say... keep up the good
work!   Right now I do want to help with one of your links in the Digest
Tutorials.   Your link to the September tutorial in todays post.    I've
taken the photos in your "Preforming and Retaining Finished Carat Weight"
lesson and retouched them so that you can view them more easy...I've
removed the DARKNESS and improved the overall color,  they are attached to
this email.  Just copy them to a folder and you can reinsert them into the
location in your lesson.... you'll notice that the numbers are the same
with the addition of a "c" if you like I can improve any lesson photos so
the can be better viewed.  I have Paint Shop Pro 8 and you can do some
amazing things with it....  I've recently purchased a new Canon G3 w/Close
up Len's and a special lighting system so as to illuminate any stone 360
degrees around it.   I have the Canon G3 now but I'm waiting on the
lighting system.
    I've been in the same position as a few of the other people that had
"faceting burnout" but due to a recent major change in our family's
employment I'm back to work faceting and really have to produce big
time.   I will be reinstating my web page,  but not just yet,  I will let
you know when and would like to include it in your links page.   I will be
contributing to the Digest now and in the future on a more regular basis as
I have a lot of very valuable information to give to all that's willing to
absorb it,  after all I've only been faceting for 35 years the last 20
years professionally. Oh by the way the "Cold Doping by Steve Kotlowski"
link on your Tutorial page  works with all types of stones not just heat
sensitive ones... (STEPHEN not Steve...).   I just got the word from my
boss ( My wife Liz) that I need to get to work...  so by for now  and I
hope I was helpful.

Stephen Kotlowski  BS GG CSM

PS - I recently cut a very large,  225+ cts, killer Blue Topaz I've
included a photo.



Hi Stephen and welcome back. That is a BIG Topaz!
Please contribute to your hearts content.



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From: "Frank lavin" <nival42@hotmail.com>

Obituary of someone we will all miss

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend by the name of
Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure
how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red

He will be remembered as having cultivated such valued lessons as
knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm
and that life isn't always fair.

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend
more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not kids,
are in charge).

His health began to rapidly deteriorate when well intentioned but
overbearing regulations were set in place.

Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for
kissing a classmate, teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after
lunch, and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student only
worsened his condition.

It declined even further when schools were required to get parental
consent to administer aspirin to a student but could not inform the parents
when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Finally, Common sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments
became contraband, churches became businesses and criminals received better
treatment than their victims.

Common Sense finally gave up the ghost after a woman failed to
realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot, spilled it in her lap, and was
awarded a huge settlement.

Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust,
his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by two stepbrothers; My Rights and Ima Whiner.

Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.


Hear the meaning within the word.

---William Shakespeare---


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