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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No. 209 - Friday, September 19, 2003
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Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: Optical Bonding
02  RE: HR 2416: The Palentological Resources Preservation Act
03  AD: Votes wanted
04: NEW: Utah topaz Question
05  RE: Optical Bonding
06  NEW: Glenn Vargas
07  RE: Flex Shafts

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Message:01

Subject: Bonding with Glues
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:38:13 -0400
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Peter In Maine" <kulaczp@pivot.net>

I have just put together some of my Herkimer Diamond clusters from June's
trip.  I used the 330 and it worked really great, could not see where I
glued anything. I did mix up enough to get a good mixture ....( 1/2 inch
blob)........Put just a drip on the crystals to bond them together...
Now for the UV system........Years ago when I did a bunch of stained glass
work I used a UV glue to attached pieces to mirror glass... It was very
pricy. Somewhere around $30.00 and ounce. BUT.......wow ....What a bond and
clean.........
I do not believe the RI is going to do much for a bond that is a couple
thousands thick is it???.......

Rock picken Mt Apatite last week and found  2 quartz, wall pocket crystals
with toumaline and cookeite.......10 pounders..........We dug down 6 feet
and moved bolders that weighed more than 1000 pounds with a portable
winch........Best find was Joe's  1918 penny from the bottom of his water
logged hole....Tells you the time the workers were doing there thing there
don't it ? This place has the best tabular quartz crystals also.......Found
a bunch of pocket schorl and I tried a 8 sided cab with some and it is
beautiful.......Hope all is well with everyone....

Peter.........no more bugs in Maine................

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Message:02

Subject: Re: Issue No. 208 - Thursday, September 18, 2003
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: Dale Rhode <rhodescabbin@yahoo.com>

IN RE: Message:03

Subject: The Palentological resources Preservation Act..Response by msg from Webb
Long:
 
Hello All,
 
Webb you are indeed right!!! I worked 3 years for the Government I.E. Law Enf...and I
learned real quick that people do not have rights. There is no such thing as "The
Justice System."..I recall as a youngster in the late 60"s and early 70's beach
combing on the Columbia River in Oregon. We would find arrowheads, agates/jaspers
then the archeology preservation act? came along--- Something like that hit the
polls-intended to protect Indian burials which we all thought ethical--ya right--Now
I can't even take my kids to the Columbia to walk the beaches because if we so much
as pick up a rock there will be an officer waiting at our car to make us empty our
pockets...Just several years ago, here in Oregon, we were shocked to hear from some
friends whom were cited hefty fines for digging petrified wood in the John Day
Wilderness!!! If things keep going this way a rockhounds gonna need an idiot stick
and a lawyer to go dig rocks....
Dale Rhode aka rhodescabbin

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Message:03

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so I can win a "ROLLING STONES SIGNED POSTER" THANKS
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:58:48 -0400
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Tyler Allen" <t.allen@mindspring.com>

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Message:04

Subject: Re: Issue No. 208 - Thursday, September 18, 2003
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:31:07 -0600
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "George Mather" <concordml@msn.com>

I hope someone can help, I picked up a bag of yellow crystal Topaz from
Utah. Is this the Imperial Topaz I have read about. Is it a more
desirable Topaz than the blue and clear? Thanks.

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Message:05

Subject: Re: Optical bonding?
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:28:55 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.net>

On Thursday 18 September 2003, Phil wrote:
> Some time ago, someone posted about materials used to "optically bond"
> higher RI materials. Could someone refresh my memory? I'm aware of 330
> epoxy that does an acceptable job on faceting grade quartz (RI=3D1.54).

Hi Phil,

I have a question not an answer. What do you mean by "optically bond"?
I have used 330 to bond a few opal triplets where the quartz cap was about
1.54 RI while the opal center was about 1.45 RI and the basinite backing
was irrelevant. The only real problem there was getting any air bubbles
out. Are you trying to do something similar? Perhaps a zircon or CZ
doublet so you want the glue as close to the materials RI as possible?

Dan Clayton
from Puyallup where Fall has certainly hit us with cold and rain but
no hurricanes

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Message:06

Subject: Glenn Vargas
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:52:11 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: TA Masters <tam2819@cox.net>

Hi All,
Not too long ago I posted a message about Ed Soukup and what a nice chat
I had with him. A few replied they were not aware he was still among us.
That is sad.

Some three years ago, I spent three days side by side with Glenn Vargas
during the CFMS/AFMS Show and Faceters Symposium in Riverside. I found
him to be a fascinating person and enjoyed hanging out and chatting with
him.

Today I had the wonderful pleasure of spending the day with him and a
great group of others. I found Glenn at 89 to be sharp as can be and
very interested in faceting, faceters and life.  This was a very great
experience.

I feel very lucky to over the last 3 months to have hung out in the
presence of the three great gents of faceting history, Ed Soukup, Fred
Van Sant, and Glenn Vargas. It has been a privilege I will not forget.
Teresa

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Message:07

Subject: Re: Issue No. 208 - Thursday, September 18, 2003
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 06:48:41 -0400 (EDT)
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: tackyjackie@webtv.net (Jack King)

Doug, Thanks for the flex-shaft info.  A LOT to absorb. I do have saws
and a Genie to get rid of the excess matrix. And having finished my
first couple of pieces with a Dremel, I knew if I was going to be
serious about boulder, that a dremel would kill my wrist after a few
hours. I will use your info to start doing my research. Jack


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