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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No. 249 - Thursday, November 20, 2003
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Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
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Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Hi All, 

Effective immediately the digest will be published on a new schedule based
totaly on the membership posting volume. Member post drive the list so when
10 post are collected by the collection software  the list will be published.
If you want to see the list daily get those post in.

Great Job today. You got the post in so here is todays digest. Enjoy.

Does any member have a copy of the December 1988 issue of Rock and Gem ?
I need a copy of the article in it concerning growing opal if possible.

Thurmond

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Index to Today's Digest

01  SHOW: Roanoke Valley Gem & Mineral Society
02  NEW: Rock shop question
03  WTB: Private cutter buying rough and collections
04  WTB: uvarite garnet
05  RE: Honduras Opal help
06  NEW: saw blade
07  NEW: Cerium Oxide vs Sapphire
08  RE: Subject: Ramona Lakeside (Cedar) Wildfire Photo Gallery
09  NEW: Looking for Lapidary courses in Florida
10  NEW: Looking for distributor for Sodalite

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Message:01

Subject: Gem & Mineral Show
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:25:45 EST
To: Lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: TheGemTree@aol.com

Hi Thurmond,
I would appreciate your posting the following information.  Thank you, Larry
White - Treasurer, RVM&GS

The Roanoke Valley Gem & Mineral Society is holding its 24th annual gem and
mineral show at the Salem Civic Center, Salem, Virginia November 28th through
30th in conjunction with the Southeast Federation of Mineralogical Societies
annual meeting in Roanoke, Virginia.  Show hours are Friday - 3:00 to 7:00 pm,
Saturday -10:00 am to 6:00 pm,  Sunday - 12:00 to 6:00 pm. There will be
demonstrations, member displays (including a large fluorescent mineral display),
geode cutting and 35 dealers.  Complimentary tickets for those attending the SFMS
meeting.

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Message:02

Subject: Rock shop question
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:37:53 EST
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Cmsgt2@aol.com

Hi All:
I once bought turquoise from a rock shop in Oregrande, NM. I cannot find him
anywhere and the phone number I have is invalid. Anyone in Alamogordo, NM or
ElPaso know anything about Bears Shop?
Don
Cmsgt2@aol.com

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Message:03

Subject: Private cutter buying rough and collections
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:44:32 -0700
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Mark Zirinsky <mz@mho.net>

Private cutter buying rough, tools, jewelry, faceting/cabbing/carving
rough. full collections, all or part.

Contact me off list.

Mark Zirinsky, Denver, CO USA
mz@mho.net
markzy@covad.net

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Message:04

Subject: uvarite garnet
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:18:41 -0500
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "RICHARD P ROSENTHAL" <kenaii@earthlink.net>

Can anyone help with some information on where to get some Russian
Uravite drusy garnet. I Think it comes from a source in the Ural
Mountains of Russia. Thanks kenaii@earthlink,net

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Message:05

Subject: RE: Honduras Opal help
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:20:26 -0800
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Steven W. De Long" <sdelong@san.rr.com>

Hi All,

Just wanted to say thanks to all those who posted with suggestions regarding
how to cut the Honduras Matrix Opal I asked about a while back.

My piece looks reasonably solid and I'll let you all know how it comes out
once I get around to cutting it.

In the mean time I was up at the Opal Society Show in Anaheim a couple of
weeks ago and picked up a modest supply of lightning ridge material to work
on.  Some good possibilities, but the usual sand etc. to work around.  There
are always some very special opals to see.  One thing I always do is buy a
slab or two of koroit or yowah from Barbara McCondra.  I always find
something nice in her trays.

I also just had my jeweler set my best opal for my wife for Christmas.  Came
out very nice.  Of course, it would have been a better surprise if she
hadn't spotted the jewelers bag in the front seat of my car as I parked it
the other night.  The light from the garage door opener acted just like a
spot light.  She hasn't actually seen the piece but she knows it's coming.

One of the questions I always get from people when I show them the stones
I've cut is "what are you going to do with that?"  Well, I certainly can't
afford to have them all set, that's for sure.  I took this piece to work
after it was finished to show off (just can't help myself) and a couple of
ladies even asked if it was for sale.  I suppose that is a good sign that
I'm headed in the right direction.

Take Care,

Steve
Sabre Springs

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Message:06

Subject: saw blade
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:14:40 -0500
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Frank lavin" <nival42@hotmail.com>

What can be done if the saw blade is no longer running true.  Mine has a
slight wobble, as it must have a slight bend.  Is there a way to fix it or
do you throw it out and get a new one?

Frank

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Message:07

Subject: NEW: Cerium Oxide vs Sapphire
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:47:10 -0700
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Clark Gail" <clarkg@cableone.net>

Hello Thurmond,

Sincere thanks for carrying on the excellent work of Hale.  Your efforts
are valuable, appreciated and anticipated daily!

The following refers to lapidary work, not faceting.

For final polishing, I have used  highest grade cerium oxide for several
years and recently received a supply of sapphire (alumina), also of
highest quality.  In using the sapphire it seems as though I am not
quite getting the glassy polish that is normally the result with the
cerium.  I use both polishes with a soft leather flat polishing pad and
water. I have found the cerium to be excellent on a wide variety of
stones of varying hardness...opal to agate.

Is sapphire a more narrow spectrum polish, better for specific stones
than others of a wider range of characteristics?  Is there a better way
than the soft leather method I use?  I'd be grateful to hear success
stories of others who use either of these polishes.

Thanks.

Gail Clark

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Message:08

Subject: RE: Subject: Ramona Lakeside (Cedar) Wildfire Photo Gallery by Paul Grupp at pbase.com
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:06:22 -0800
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Steven W. De Long" <sdelong@san.rr.com>

Hi Anna,

Looking at the photos like those in your link makes it seem even more
surreal now that if is over.  I remember watching that hillside in Poway
burn from my front yard and gathering with our neighbors in the street
wondering if we should pack our belongings.

Fortunately the fires were quite a ways east and south of us.  But any time
you can see the flames from your front yard it's way too close.

The first couple times that I drove down 15 on the way to the office I had a
hard time concentrating on driving because I kept trying to look at all the
burned areas on BOTH sides of the freeway.  For those of you who may not
know, the point where the flames jumped the freeway south of Scripps Ranch
is something like 20 lanes wide because of the merge with 163 - the better
part of a football field of concrete and asphalt - and the flames went over
it like it wasn't there.

I haven't been up to Ramona or Julian yet.  Not sure I'm ready to see the
damage.

Glad your house came through OK,

Steve
Sabre Springs


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Message:09

Subject: Lapidary courses
From: MXEVNS@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:40:22 EST

Hi. I am a newcomer to lapidary but really enjoy it. Would like to know where
I can go to learn the necessary skills. Much appreciated Max Evans, Jupiter
Florida.

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Message:10

From: websmith@iway.na
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:41 AM
Subject: Message from Web Site


Hi there

I am looking for a relighable contact who deals in sodalte. I have
tones to export. See picture.. Do you know someone ?

I am also looking for a contact in the east to facet rough tourmaline.
Any ideas ?

Thank you

Jaco Smith
www.erongominerals.com

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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:17:03 -0600
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