Issue No. 136 - Thursday May 29, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: beryl
02  RE: Intl Rough & Finished Stone Shipment
03  RE: Work vs. Pleasure. (Symposium sabotage).
04  RE: Mainely MAINE Beryl
05  RE: Maine Beryl Question to All......
06  RE: Book on garnets
07  NEW: stop question
08  UPDATE: CDN Discovery Channel Precious Stone Series


Subject: beryl
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:40:58 -0500
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Rockey Starnes" <rockeystar@cox-internet.com>

Is this beryl you have faceting grade or cabbing grade. I facet and
would love some nice rough to work with.
I didn't know they had beryl in Maine, I thought it was famous for
Let me know. Thanks. -Rockey the Country Parson


Hi Rockey,  See the answer to your question in today's Message #5.



Subject: Re:Intl Rough & Finished Stone Shipment
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:14:13 -0700
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: Dave Arens <gemstonesetc@gci-net.com>

Hi Norm,

>>I wasn't
sure about international shipping of rough/cut stones so I told him that I'd
this the list to see if any of the Aussie cutters might be interested.<<

Probably the best source of info on shipping things around the world from the US
is www.usps.com. This site covers the rulls & you can find the different ways an
item can be shipped, the cost & delivery time. If you want, you can even print
labels with the postage already on them. This sure makes it nice when you drop
it of at the Post Office, you can waltz right by all the folks standing in line.
Been there, do it all the time.



Subject: Work vs. Pleasure. (Symposium sabotage).
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 18:05:34 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <webmaster@gearloose.com>

At 01:53 PM 5/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Would you believe that the reason is that
>he has to WORK?  I used to do that....work.

In order for me to get to be able to say that same thing in five or six
years, I have to say "Yes" to employers now.  In addition to myriad other
things, I am, like many others, trying to make up for a six figure loss in
a "Balanced" investment fund some years ago.  Many retired people have had
to go back to work because of such things, and some of them are working at
menial jobs to make ends meet.  It seems the fund managers and executives
are protected, however, and are doing just fine with their bonuses and
golden parachutes.
It speaks well for American gun owners that no harm has come to these people.
As many of you know, two years ago I had booked a room for the Franklin
show, as well, and was similarly pre-empted.
(Disgusted at defacto slavery, but that's the way it is.)


Subject: Mainely MAINE Beryl
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:12:00 -0400
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Peter In Maine" <kulaczp@pivot.net>

I have received numerous emails on the beryl subject and am presently on an
Engineering job in N.H.  so bear with me fellow rock and mineral coo
coo's.........As for the comment on finding the beryl in S.Paris ,,,,,,,ah
what a treasure it was.......I had a good friend that took me out in 1962
and started me collecting . He was Ed Piela of Chicopee Massachusetts and
worked for Springfield Science Museum.....I got the fever really early in
life and GoD Bless the man for taking the time to spend with this poor kid
at the time......I now carry pockets full of quartz and other crystals for
distribution to all kids and people I might meet.....You can't believe how
much they enjoy getting a nice piece of mother nature........
Oh. I have a beryl crystal from Albany Maine... its weighs 50 pounds...Try
putting that on a lap..........................!!!!



Subject: Maine Beryl Question to All......
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 21:00:50 -0400
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Peter In Maine" <kulaczp@pivot.net>

Fello Beryl Inthusiasts.....
I am off on the road again and thought it would be nice for me to at least
get back to everyone interested in the Roll OUT The Beryl's.....
Lets get things straight here, these are not facet grade, they come in
colors from seafoam to light blues, some of the darker greens are not as
solid for big cabs. I also have tumbled light blues, did this to see how
they would look cleaned up a bit from the broken pieces... Some of the blues
are big and weigh in at ounces. I have a few hundred of small crystals from
1/4 inch up to 1 inch in diameter. I was thinking of just grinding and
polishing the ends to sell as wire wrap material. I have 2 big gorgeous
blues from Rattlesnake Mountain mined by Jim Mann years ago, these will be
much more $$ ....Specimen or Cabbing.....
I really don't need any trading material right now but could use a few bucks
to buy some new hammers........Herkimer Trip comin up in June...
Those interested send me a line and tell me what you want to get this stuff
for, I know as specimens they are really nice since most of the small
crystals have all of their faces on them.....a few have terminations also.
I will honor all requests until the poundage is depleated and can send
photos of the lot or specific crystals....
Thanks for the opportunity to give you all a taste of Maine mining, we
should be into Amethyst any time soon.
I have also acquired a bunch of smoky plates and crystals from New Hampshire
Ossipee area....Some of the plates are 10 pounds and better..
Really nice parallel growth and regrowth and double terminations....
Be back on Friday...


Subject: Re: Book on garnets
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 00:02:00 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Phillip L Stonebrook <plstonebrook@juno.com>

Greetings list....

I just "knew" Fred Ward wrote a great book on garnets .. until I tried to
find it in his popular gem series??? No luck at all. I have Schumann's
"Gemstones of the World" which gives a good introductory on garnets, and
Arem's "Color Encyclopedia of Gemstones" that gives a little more in
depth on garnets and some great pictures, but somebody came out with an
"extensive" work on garnets, I think within the last 3 years, which I
can't place. Hopefully this includes the grape colored garnets. Any help
on a title, author, and source will be appreciated.

Phil in Florida


Subject: stop question
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 08:25:48 -0500
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: Dolly <greykin@attbi.com>

Ok I have another dumb question
the talk is of working to "the stop"
and no where have I been able to figure out what the stop is
(an old ultra tec is what I'm working with)

need another clue



Subject: Update: CDN Discovery Channel Precious Stone Series
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:55:07 -0400
To: rockhounds@lists.drizzle.com
From: sinico@nbnet.nb.ca (H.Durstling)

Hi everyone,

Sorry to bother you with this again but if you have access to the Canadian
Discovery Channel, I have just received updated broadcast times for the
precious stone series "Stones of Fate & Fortune."

The new dates/times are as follows - all times are EST:

Monday, June 2, 2003 at 1:00pm: "Stones of Seduction"  (Ruby & Sapphire)

Thursday, June 5, 2003 at 9:00pm:  "Topaz of Brazil"

Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 9:00pm: "Green Fever: The Colombian Emerald"

Thursday, June26, 2003 at 9:00pm: "Synthesizing the Stone"

Thursday, July 3, 2003 at 9:00pm: "Treasure of the Outback" (Opal)

Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 9:00pm: "The Gem of Life"  (Amber)

Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 9:00pm: "Birth of a Gem"  (Ammolite)

The series will air on Thursday nights at 9:00pm and will be re-broadcast
the following Fridays at 1:00am, 10:00am and 4:00pm and on the following
Mondays at 1:00pm.  These are the latest dates given to the producer by
Discovery Channel (on 28 May 2003) and are subject to change without

A number of persons  have contacted me in response to my previous post on
this series asking will it be broadcast in the United States and will it be
available on video. I can't answer these questions yet, but should be able
to in two to three weeks time at which time I will post again.

Cheers & thanks,
Hans Durstling
Moncton, Canada









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