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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No. 147 - Friday June 13, 2003
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From The Moderator:

Hi all,  Another weekend is here. Hope everyone
has time to enjoy some cutting this weekend. If
you do please share your cutting experience with
us for inclusion in Monday's Digest. Have a great
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Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: Star Diamonds
02  RE: Saw Coolants
03  RE: Star Diamonds
04  RE: Saw Coolants
05  RE: Saw Coolants
06  RE: North Carolina sites
07  NEW: preferred size of girdle
08  RE: Star Diamonds
09  RE: Saw Coolants

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Message:01

Subject: Star Diamonds
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:07:57 -0400
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Ken Ward" <kenward@bertcopart.com>

I believe that no star diamonds have been manufactured for three years,
Fancoldi no longer exists. I think Isakov and Grafstein may sell assembled
stars made from other shapes. Pancis sells to jewelers.
The stars are made from rounds and therefore weigh about 50% of a round with
the same diameter.
Ken Ward

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Message:02

Subject: Re: Issue No. 146 - Thursday June 12, 2003
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:19:27 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <webmaster@gearloose.com>

At 01:26 PM 6/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Uh...oh, wrong move huh. So, now that I know what not to use, what DO I
>use in my faceters' trim saw without hazards .. food grade mineral oil?
>My saw location is outdoors, under protective cover of patio.


If you have a notched steel rim blade,(Black Blazer, etc.) it is best to
use an oil.  Light mineral oil is harmless.  With perfume added, it is
called "Baby Oil"...they do NOT squeeze babies to make it.
If you have a bronze rim blade or a bronze segmented blade, you can use a
water/Almag soluble oil with good results.

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Message:03

Subject: Re: Issue No. 146 - Thursday June 12, 2003
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:33:39 EDT
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: PANACHEGEMS@cs.com

Yes, I have seen the Star Diamonds so they do exist. The same dealer that
used to sell to us also carried a lot of  initial cut Diamonds. He always carried
an "A" with him always thinking I would buy it, I wish I had of now. It was
right at .99ct and absolutely beautiful, it was an SI1-G/H  stone.  At the time
he was dealing with us I could have bought it for $2100.00. I never to my
memory ask about the cost of the stars but yes, they do exist.
AC Hughes,
Panache' Gems
Florida

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Message:04

Subject: Re: Issue No. 146 - Thursday June 12, 2003
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:37:46 -0700
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: John Parrott <parrotjd@bellsouth.net>

Hello,

Just wanted to say thanks to all who have provided information on lubricants for
a gem saw.  Much appreciated and the information will be put to good use.

John Parrott

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Message:05

Subject: saw coolant
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:20:56 -0400
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Doug & Beth Dover" <ddover@carolina.rr.com>

Phil asked for saw coolant input. I use plain water in my 6" trimmer and
just drain it out after use. I replaced the plug with a valve to make it
easier. If the valve starts running slow, it is time to clean the shavings
out of the reservoir. If you want to leave the water in the saw Graves, for
one, offers Dia-Cut in 16 oz. bottles for $4.25 plus shipping. I know people
who use it without trouble, I just have not seen the need. I have had the
same MK brand blade on my saw for three years and it still has lots of life
left. The main thing that wrecks trim saw blades is using one as a slab saw.
Doug Dover
Belmont, NC



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Message:06

Subject: North Carolina sites
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:30:21 -0400
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Doug & Beth Dover" <ddover@carolina.rr.com>

If anyone is looking for exact information on collecting sites in N.C. go to
ebay and look up a seller rjacquot@msn.com or just email him direct. He is
the author of Rock, Gem and Mineral collecting Sites in Western North
Carolina. His book (I bought one for myself) has 53 of the best sites
available with directions, GPS coordinates, what you can find, what the cost
is and what you need to bring to collect. I have used it to find two kinds
of garnets and my next trip is for cutting grade kyanite. I do not get any
benefit from recommending his book other than knowing it will help others
find what they are looking for. I have also found amethyst, smoky quartz,
sapphires, rubies, emeralds and many other gems & minerals in the lapidary
wonderland that is North Carolina.
Doug Dover
Belmont, NC

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Message:07

Subject: preferred size of girdle
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 23:16:53 -0400
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Bill Zoppi" <wjzoppi@bmts.com>

Hi everyone,

This being my first post to Thurmond's digest I guess I'd better say Hi
to you all and do a little intro. I'm an old codger but still relatively
new to faceting, about 2 years. Over this time I have learned a huge
amount for which I thank all the contributors and especially Thurmond
for his efforts in editing this fine digest.

Now I do have a question. What is the preferred girdle size for the
commercial setting of gems? Who knows , sometime I might get lucky and
sell one or two.

Thanks, Bill from Kincardine on the Ontario shores of Lake Huron

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Message:08

Subject: Re:Star shaped Diamonds
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:05:58 -0700
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Don Rogers <Don@Campbell-gemstones.com>

A star shaped diamond is really 5 well cut matched diamonds that will mount
into a star shape.  I haven't seen them advertised for a couple years now
and I don't remember the company that marketed them.  If you can find a
three year old JCK magazine, I'm sure the ad will be there.

Don

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Message:09

Subject: Trim saw lubricant
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 00:22:48 +0930
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "aurimas" <aurimas@chariot.net.au>

G'Day List

Phil in Phlorida asked about trim saw coolant/lubricant.  I used diesel
fuel, heating oil, kerosene mixed with the former two and very fine
machine oil. They worked, but the stink was pretty bad .so I added a
dash of eucalyptus oil to kill the smell. It worked, but only so so. The
stones were "greasy" and I still smelled like a billy goat on a promise.


Now I use water only. Top results and no pong. I drain the water after
cutting, spin dry the blade and then give it a squirt of CRC or WD20. I
also squirt the bearings. Have had that 6" trim saw for some years now.,
no rust on blade and the bearings are still in good nik.  I also use it
for cabbing, so it gets a fair bit of work. Use water mate, its safe,
except for drinking, you know what fish do in it!
Cheers
Aurimas in Adelaide in South Australia where it used to be sunny.


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