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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No. 163 - Thursday July 10, 2003
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Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: curved facet machine
02  NEW: Corian laps
03  RE: Ultra-Tec
04  RE: Stanley/ultratec/Gus Munoz & Joe Rubin
05  RE: Facet Alignment (Stanley/ultratec)

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Message:01

Subject: curved facet machine
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:39:34 -0600
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Ernie Hawes" <ehawes7@comcast.net>

Facetron makes one that is much cheaper that the Polymetric.  I think =
it's still $585.00.

Ernie Hawes
Albuquerque, NM USA


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Message:02

Subject: Corian laps
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:34:12 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Mark Bachert" <Bach2775@RCN.com>

I work for a division of Dupont and my company makes Corian products. I
spoke to my boss about other ways I can make more money at the job. He told
me there just wasn't anything available. I had to brainstorm a while then it
occurred that there was mention of Corian laps in here. I did some searching
and I noticed that these Corian laps were kind of expensive for what they
are. We get large pieces of scrap that we just throw away. I then again
spoke to my boss and explained my idea about taking some of these scraps and
making a few Corian Laps each week after work. He was cool with the idea but
told me that upper management would most likely want me to pay for what I
took from the scrap pile. It figures right? I'm sure this price would be
minimal if not free. I'll know for sure on Friday. I have the experience,
tools and materials to start If there's enough interest in these I will
right away. I figure that I can make and sell these for much less then what
I have seen them selling for online. Contact me with all specs. at
Bach2775@RCN.com if your interested.
                                                        
Mark...

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Hi Mark, I am sure you will receive several replys to your message. We have at least
two list members or more who manufacture laps.

Thurmond
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Message:03

Subject: Ultra-Tec
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:45:19 -0700
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

Terry,
  I do not understand why that UltraTec would not work on your machine. 
Even if it was worked over by someone else a factory should have the
expertise and parts necessary to make it like new again. You would
expect to pay a lot for the work, but they should have fixed it.  For
the factory to flat out refuse to work on the machine in inexcusable
plus very poor customer relations.
  My experience with UltraTec and my Stanley machine was very similar to
yours.  My machine was stamped #169, in its original wooden box and it
was a left hand model.  I obtained the machine used.  After a couple of
years of heavy cutting it became impossible to evenly cut a stone.  In,
I think, 1988  I sent the machine back to UltraTec.  I told them to look
it over and I would pay for an estimate on what it would take to fix the
machine.  After they told me the cost I told them to fix it and if the
cost was more I would gladly pay to make sure it was fixed right.  They
returned it fixed after I paid the charges.  I tried to use it and the
machine was in worse shape than when I sent it in.  I called them and
they said that the quill was out of tolerance and they would not
manufacture a new one.  I asked why and they said that they no longer
manufactured those parts.  They told me to buy a new machine.  I did. 
For a fact I bought two - both Facetrons.
  Seem so this is a hobby site I wonder why one of the machinists in the
group will not volunteer their time, tools, and expertise to help out
Terry.  Surely a good machinist with tools could tear apart that head, 
manufacture the parts necessary, and supply another hobbyist with means
to pursue her hobby.  How about it? Step in where the manufacturers
refuse.

Gerry Galarneau


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Message:04

Subject: Gus Munoz & Joe Rubin
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:53:23 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Galand and Tom Nuchols <nucholsg@1Starnet.com>

I asked Joe  about Gus at Ventura and  Joe  told me that Gus was no
longer with  Ultra Tec.  Terri was definitely dealing with the Orginal
Joe Rubin at Ventura.    Joe tole me that Gus left Ultra Tec for a job
working with kids in the LA. gettos.
After I think about  it I really believe Joe did Terri a favor in
refusing to work on the head.  The reason being is that it is very
expensive to  replace Ultra Tec parts.  The spindle alone is $400.00
plus.   I spent $177.00  on replacing two bearing and checking  the
calibration and generally tighting up the head this spring. 
Tom Nuchols, Mount Pleasant,  Texas


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Message:05

Subject: Facet Alignment
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:57:02 -0700
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

All,
  Several people have written in about problems in facet alignment. 
Many have responded with good comments.  Let me give you a checklist to
follow about preventive maintenance that will help you to determine if
your bad alignment is an out on line machine or just dirt.

 1.  Make sure the backs of all your laps and the base plate are clean. 
Wipe them off.  If there are any bumps you will have facet alignment problems.
 2. Clean your quill.  Hang the quill as straight down as you can and
spray it with WD40.  Let it drain and dry.  You may have to do this several times.
 3.  Clean your index gear and clean the mechanism that locks into the
gear.  I use WD40.
 4.  Clean the base plate that the mast moves on and the base of the mast.
  After you are all done try this.
 1. Center the cheater on zero.
 2. Dop a stone of at least 6mm.
 3. Cut a square at 90 degrees. Use your indicator and cut as accurately
to a zero as possible.
 4. Raise the mast to 45 degrees and cut one facet to zero on your
indicator.  Repeat to zero on the other three settings.  You do not have
to cut to a point.  If your machine is lined up all the girdles should
match.  If they do not your machine has an alignment problem.  This does
not check for the accuracy of the angle, just alignment.

  Gerry Galarneau


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