LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
Issue No.54 - Wednesday January 29, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Index to Today's Digest
01 RE: Pakistani and Afghani rough
02 RE: Diamond Sources
03 RE: Looking for a Teacher
04 FS: Diamond Melee
Subject: Re: Issue No.53 - Tuesday January 28, 2003
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:32:51 EST
Okay, I have to say this about Pakistani and Afghani rough. Was
controlled by the Taliban as a money making medium for many years?
to believe it was. Also, if a dealer wants me to consider buying
don't tell me that you cherry picked the really good stuff and had
it cut by
commercial cutters. Harrrumphhhhh. Dennis on the North Coast
I suspect that the Taliban has also made money from legitimate business
in the good ol' USA.
"Harrrumphhhhh", If I am not mistaken, would indicate
membership in the Curmudgeons? :)
Subject: Diamond Sources
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:18:28 -0700
To: "Lapidary Arts & Faceter's Digest" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: John McLaughlin <email@example.com>
"It would be nice to know of a source of smaller diamonds in
1 to 20 pt
sizes and what quantity purchase would be required for "reasonable"
wholesale prices." Thurmond
If you have any jewelry oriented pawn shops in your area, they may
excellent source of small diamonds. Pawn shops dealing more
in junk -
used bikes, tools, odd items of equipment, etc. - are not usually
sources, as they may overvalue diamonds or not know genuine diamonds
from junk. Still, they are worth a look.
Pawn shops often break up old rings and other jewelry where the
is worn out, out dated or just plain ugly. The larger diamonds
sold at a profit that pays for the loan plus yields a healthy profit.
The findings are sold for their gold value and the small diamonds
10 points) often just sit.
You can use the Rio Grande Gems & Findings Catalog to give you
of what the top price for a small diamond should be, as Rio is a
reputable outfit that describes exactly what you will receive.
sell diamonds from 1 point to 40 points, so you have a good reference
source to judge the value of a deal. There may be other references
The diamond idea is excellent. DeBeers has spent millions
value of diamonds since the beginnings of the 1900s, why not take
advantage of their advertising efforts.
How about some discussion of how to add the diamonds. The
ones most of
us can afford will be 5 points and under. How can we add them
having to spend three weeks at a stone setting class with Blaine
or another expert?
Hi John, It is only 75 miles to the nearest pawn shop but
I intend to check
them the next time I am "in town". I also already
use the Rio Catalog as
a reference source. I am planning to look at my CD on Gem Setting
Gerold Wykoff to see what info it has on setting small stones.
Subject: Re: Looking for a Teacher
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:39:31 -0500
From: "Douglas Turet" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Earlier, you wrote:
"looking for someone in the NH area to show me or help me to
learn to cut
Although I'm not actually _in_ NH, I'm
not that far away, either -- in
fact, only about 45-50 min. south of Nashua. Where are you located,
you interested in learning in your home, on your own machine, or
on one of
mine, down here? I'll be home tonight, if you'd like to give me
a ring and
discuss the possibilities. Until then,
All my best,
Douglas Turet, GJ
Lapidary Artist, Designer & Goldsmith.
P. O. Box 162
Arlington, MA 02476, U.S.A.
Tel. (617) 325-5328
Fax: (928) 222-0815
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:58:11 -0600
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <email@example.com>
From: "M Rugroden" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
re: I didn't open this can of peas,but since everybodys parading
choices for best rough sources;could we have some input on where
to turn for the
cut diamonds we need to sell WITH our colored stones?TO GET
I can supply diamonds for those who want them. Here is a list
If you need larger let me know. These are sold in carat
lots only. If
that's too many maybe you can split a lot with someone. Prices
1.10 mm--1.55 mm I-1 $150.00, si1-vs2,$165.00, vs$425.00
1.60 mm--2.60 mm I-1 $200.00, si1-vs2 $375.00, vs $580.00
2.70 mm--3.20 mm I-1 $275.00, si1-vs2 $400.00, vs $640.00
3.30 mm--3.50 mm I-1 $325.00, si1-vs2 $445.00, vs $640.00
If you don't like them send them back within 3 days with a check
cover the postage. As with all things prices are subject to
Hi Martin, What is the approximate count per carat for each
stated size range?
RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~
Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
then enter www.liccini.com
RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com
RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~
Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com
FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~
*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, email@example.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters
Don Cameron: firstname.lastname@example.org
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, email@example.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, Tyler Miller, email@example.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, firstname.lastname@example.org
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, email@example.com
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch firstname.lastname@example.org
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, email@example.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, firstname.lastname@example.org)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write
TODAY'S FUNNY ~
A Texan farmer goes to Australia for a vacation.
There he meets an Aussie farmer and gets talking.
The Aussie shows off his big wheat field and the
Texan says, "Oh! We have wheat fields that are at
least twice as large".
Then they walk around the ranch a little and the Aussie
shows off his herd of cattle. The Texan immediately says,
" We have longhorns that are at least twice as large as
The conversation has, meanwhile, almost died when the
Texan sees a herd of kangaroos hopping through the field.
He asks, "And what are those"?
The Aussie asks with an incredulous look,
"Don't you have any grasshoppers in Texas"?
REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:
In prayer, it is better to have a heart with no words,
than words with no heart."
--- Author Unknown ---
February 6 - February 11, 2003
LOWE ASSOCIATES - Robert P. Lowe Jr. invites you
to visit us in
Booth # 205 at the GJX - Gem & Jewelry Exchange, Downtown Tucson,
TOURMALINES - in Greens, Pinks, Indicolite, Rubelite, Salmon, Yellow,
Silver, Orange, Purple, Bi-color, Tri-color, - sliced, faceted,
cabochons, Paraiba and Rough. TOURMALINES in Watermelon Slices,
Singles, Matched Pairs, Sets, Cabochon Slices, plus all the other
Brazilian Colored Stones, including - Aquamarine, Citrine, Blue
Rutilated Quartz (Calibrated), Imperial Topaz, Alexandrite, Kunzite,
Brazilian Opals - Crystal & Boulder, rare Purple Topaz Specimens,
Amethyst, Morganite, Faceted Gemstone Beads, Emeralds - faceted,
cabochon, carved & Slices, Emerald Faceting Rough, Emerald Crystals,
Emerald Specimens, Emerald Jewelry - And Faceted Spessartite Garnet.
Rough - Dark Aquamarine, Amethyst, Citrine, Spessartite garnet,
Lowe Associates - Robert P. Lowe Jr.
Rua do Mirante, 573
13801-100 Mogi Mirim, SP, Brasil
e-mail: < email@example.com
> in USA
e-mail: < firstname.lastname@example.org
> in Brazil
Diamond Pacific Pixie polishing machine. All 4 Nova wheels recently
with 90 % life...2 Galaxy wheels are at 50% life. A clean, good
machine, priced at $475... E mail me at, Send2mail@aol.com.
From: "RICHARD P ROSENTHAL" <email@example.com>
Green Siberian Nephrite Jade , Jewelry and
Carving grades available sold by the gram, pound kilo or ton excellant
prices and discounts for large amounts. also availble a small amount
"mutton fat" jade. I have slabs and also weathered
interested please reply to firstname.lastname@example.org
Rough to Cut
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Rough to Cut
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
From: "P. Miklik" <email@example.com>
AVAILABLE FOR SALE
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Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
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Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included
Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs
Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly
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Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
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For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.'
Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note:
The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."
information is needed, please contact me at <firstname.lastname@example.org>.
FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention
California June 6-7-8, 2003
You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.
The Faceters Symposium will feature ten
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.
The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.
For information & costs regarding the
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.
Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630
Subject: show dates
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:32:31 -0600
From: "Archie Scott" <email@example.com>
Lubbock Gem and Mineral Society is proud to present it's 45th annual
Gem, Mineral, Fossil,& Jewelry Show.
WHEN: May 17-18, 2003
Where: Lubbock Civic Center, Lubbock, Texas
Time: Sat.5/17: 10am-6pm
For more information contact Archie Scott
LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:
KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis
ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri)
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: firstname.lastname@example.org
INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields.
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ email@example.com.
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting
cabbing please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org
TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: email@example.com
firstname.lastname@example.org or telephone
361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!
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