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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No.51 - Friday January 24, 2003
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Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
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Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Click a link below to post to the list:
for faceting questions  faceters@caprock-spur.com
for lapidary questions lapidary@caprock-spur.com
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From The Moderator:

Hi Everyone,  Thanks for the tips on faceting
labradorite. Can New Mexico bytonite be treated
similarly when cutting it since it is also a feldspar?

Here is a challenge for each person on the list.
Teach 1 (one) person to cut a stone this year.
It doesn't matter if it is a Cab or a Faceted stone
or even tumbled stones, etc. Get someone new
involved.

Above all have fun. Life is too short to be a
curmudgeon although we all are at times.

Thurmond

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Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: faceting labradorite
02  RE: faceting labradorite
03  RE: Tumbling Opal
04  Who sells good rough
05  RE: Rural America & Copyright & Business
06  Lapidary Journal
07  RE: Rural America
08  Re: "Bud"

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Message:01

Subject: faceting labradorite
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:50:49 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Ernie Hawes <ehawes7@comcast.net>

Thurmond, Labradorite is one of the easiest stones to cut and results in a truly nice gem.  
Simplest thing to do is treat it as if it were quartz, but you'll be surprised and pleased
at how easy it is to cut and polish.  It has none of quartz' gremlins.  To be specific, use
quartz angles, rough in the shape with a 260 or 325 lap, prepolish on 1200 and polish with
cerium oxide on either lucite or use a Dyna cerium oxide polishing lap.  Do examine the
rough carefully to make sure it hasn't started to cleave.  That's the only bugaboo I've
ever encountered with this material.

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Message:02

Subject: faceting labradorite and more
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:29:55 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Steve and Nancy Attaway <attaway@highfiber.com>

Dear Thurmond and Faceters,

   Thurmond, are you planning to facet the 57-carat chunk of labradorite
as one stone or saw it into several stones? Is the gem rough that lovely
champagne-yellow color often seen in the labradorite found in southwest
New Mexico? Labradorite is pretty easy to cut and polish. It is a soft
gemstone not suitable for rings but looks great in pendants and dynamite
in earrings. Labradorite is in the feldspar group and is a variable
aluminum silicate. The one you have is likely a plagioclase feldspar. I
would use a new 600-grit lap to begin grinding and move to a 1200-grit
pre-polish lap. You might begin with a worn 260-grit lap, too. Remember
that each grinding lap will leave a damage layer of a certain thickness
that must be totally eliminated by the next finer grit lap, and so on,
to obtain a complete polish. You might also keep the lap speeds slower
when working with labradorite. Labradorite polishes well on a Last lap
with 50K or 60K diamond. Cerium laps and corian laps with diamond can
also polish the gem material. However, you may have some facet rounding
with these laps. Just the nature of the beast. If you are using a
faceting diagram that calls for those long, thin sliver facets, you
might very carefully be able to polish them in with a ceramic lap with
diamond, but the ceramic lap may be too hard a lap for labradorite and
might yield some scratches. Likewise, those tiny star facets on the
crown may be polished in with the ceramic lap, providing you are very
careful and take your time in doing it. I use this method when working
with peridot, garnet, tourmaline, and beryl. Also, remember that a large
stone cut with a deep traditional pavilion will stand very high in a
jewelry mounting, which  might make it hard to balance in a pendant
setting. I also try to leave a thick girdle for stones I cut that are
slated for jewelry mountings. Those traditional 2% girdles may quite
possibly chip when being set. A thicker girdle will make the cut gems
more robust for those stones to be set in jewelry. Good luck with it.

  When I began faceting sixteen years ago, I really wanted my new-found
hobby to become a proper business. As I was learning to facet, I talked
to other well-known faceters and jewelers who had gem and jewelry
businesses. They provided advise on record-keeping, licenses, show
participation, displays, and taxes. Even after obtaining all the
documentation and all that went with it, it took some years to better
learn to facet and to become known as a custom facetor. (That also
included becoming a better judge of facet rough and being able to
purchase better and better qualities of gem rough.) Demonstrating at gem
and mineral shows provided an opportunity to meet potential customers
and to show my cut stones. It also provided a means to explain how a
stone is actually faceted. (No, we do not cleave stones in the back seat
of a Mercedes.) Demonstrating also is a magnet for folks interested in
learning to cut, and it a provides a place to meet those who already
facet. Steve and I have been dealers at shows for a number of years, he
with his gem carvings and I with my faceted gemstones. We also
collaborate on jewelry designs to make custom mountings for many our
gemstones. Several noted gem artisans told me some years ago that
one-of-a-kind designs were the recommended pursuit in their business,
rendering wearable pieces of gem/jewelry art, and to refrain from making
what is done overseas in mass quantities. Thanks for the forum, Thurmond.

  Nancy Attaway        

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Hi Nancy,  I was planning to cut it as an individual stone in a portuguese
round or Lone Star for my show case. The piece is a light straw or champagne-yellow
and the bag it was in was marked with Mexico as the origin.

Thurmond
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Message:03

Subject: Re: Issue No.50 - Thursday January 23, 2003 (Message:08)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:54:49 -0500
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: Kreigh Tomaszewski <Kreigh@Tomaszewski.net>

The disadvantages of mixing different hardness minerals/rocks in a
tumbler load can also work to your advantage.

For example, you have about half a tumbler load of good opal rough
(hardness 5 1/2 -- 6 1/2). If you use some mineral with a hardness 5 --
6 as 'filler' you have a good chance of no damage to the opal, and some
good stones from the slightly softer 'filler'.

BTW, opal can also go slightly higher if you use garnet for a filler. It
breaks down to "garnet fines", which were used before diamond dust, and
silicon carbide, for lapidary grits (sorted/graded by elutriation). The
trick is to use less 'carbo' than usual, run a bit longer to compensate,
and let the garnet 'fines' do their work; carbo seems to be more brittle
than garnet, so it breaks down faster, allowing the garnet to prevail in
the long run.

It is always fun to experiment, but I agree that it is generally best
(especially with expensive rough) to make each load uniform in both
hardness and mineral/rock type (using a neutral/soft filler as needed)
if you want consistent results.

Kreigh

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Message:04

Subject: Who sells good rough
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:58:31 +0000
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Frank Romano" <romanfj@hotmail.com>

Hi, everybody!
I see that the subject of where to buy quality rough had come up again.  In
the past, I and others have suggested a seller review (or whatever you want
to call it), but it's never happened, due in large part to fear of a libel
suit.  Fine.  So why don't we post only the GOOD rough dealers?  It wouldn't
take long to deduce who is NOT a good dealer, based on who is.  So, I'll put
the first foot forward and let's see if anybody else is brave enough to
stand up to the challenge.  My recommendations based on personal experience
and no other form of compensation are:

1)Ray Gaetan, Jill St. Michael and Gustavo Castelblanco 
http://www.rrgaetan.com  Accurately graded-you know EXACTLY what you're
going to get.  Not everything is 10X inclusion-free (though most is) but
that allows me to get a well-colored stone at a lower price sometimes. 
Their prices range from middle of the road to excellent and they'll do
anything they can to help you.

2)Jeff Graham  http://www.faceters.com   Accurately graded, HIGH quality
rough, middle of the road pricing, very helpful.

3)Dennis Harmon http://www.selectgemslimited.com   Most of his material isn't
10X inclusion-free, but is fairly graded and offered at some good prices. 
SELLS ON APPROVAL.  Very accommodating.

4)Ken Newnham http://www.juniperridgeopal.com   This is the new fire opal
mine.  I've found the 2 orders plus a sample that I've received to be fairly
graded and inexpensively priced.  I really like this material, personally -
inexpensive, easy to cut and polish and quite unusual.

So, any other takers?
Frank Romano
"Gemcutters are Multifaceted Individuals"
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Hi Frank,  Everyone is welcomed to post any good experience on  list.
Complaints about vendors must be handled off list and then ONLY between the
two involved parties for the exact reason you mention above, Libel.

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Message:05

Subject: RE: Rural America & Copyright & Business
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:33:20 -0600
To: Faceter's Digest <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: gembin <gembin@spiff.net>

Hi Ya' All,

I've really enjoyed reading all your posts on this subject. It's a great
faceting community. I hope no one misunderstood my talking about trunk mechanics
and hobby faceters. I offered my thoughts to Gerry as a business person that has
been there, done that. A business person must overcome all obstacles (and there
are many) or he won't be in business. Politicians, regulations, escalating
liability insurance and medical costs continue to make it tougher and tougher. I
mentioned the trunk mechanics get the scraps, because they don't have the
overhead a business man does and consequently many sell their services at
minimum wages (or under), to get some extra money for whatever floats their
boat. No way would I deny them that. I think it's a great way to earn a few
bucks.

I guess I am what would be called a newbie hobbyist cutter. I (so to speak) am
now in the "scraps" class as a "hobbyist cutter" is what I meant to convey to
Gerry that he must overcome.

Wilma and I sell a few loose faceted stones (cabs as well), some set in rings
and pendants at a large flea market one weekend a month (Sat & Sun) inside a
huge building with  heated and cooled comfort and 350 other vendors that sell
everything imaginable. I have people ask me if I have "such and such" a stone? I
tell them I'll cut a stone they want and give them an estimated price. If they
agree, I tell them to come back next month to see it. If you like it, great...
if you don't, it won't hurt my feelings because I'll sell it to another or give
it to someone in my family as a present. About 80 % of them come back and buy
it. (Hey, Jon, I've got a huge family, too!)

To bring home things for me to enjoy, Wilma goes shopping every morning for
several hours wearing a ring and pendant with stones (or cabs) that I have cut.
A surprising number of men and women complement her on her jewelry because they
sparkle. She gives them our card (without our address) but with our phone #,
email address, web site address and a P.O. Box #. They become customers for all
occasions... holidays, graduations, etc. I always give them a estimate and let
them see with no obligation to buy. I do not sell them at a cheap price.

Yep, Thurmond, the "beer" customers you speak of drop my stones like a hot
potato and run. haha! I don't sell a ton of stones, just enough that I can't
seem to accumulate any extras. That way of selling doesn't make me feel like
it's work, and I make a few bucks by getting the "scraps" and it floats my boat
for my hobby! I have a tax #, too. I've never approached a jeweler.

By the way Glenn, pour me one of them martinis, will 'ya?

Doug "Rhodolite" Smith
Alton, Illinois, USA
http://www.spiff.net/~gembin

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Message:06


Subject: Lapidary Journal
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:47:21 +0000
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Frank Romano" <romanfj@hotmail.com>

HI, everybody!
Has Lapidary Journal always had a featured cut in each issue? I was thinking
that finding some old back issues would be a good way to build my gem design
collection (which, by the way, my wife says is already too big:-)  Thanks!
Frank Romano
"Gemcutters are Multifaceted Individuals"

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Message:07

From: "Ken Ward" <kenward@bertcopart.com>
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
Subject: Rural Sales
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:32:01 -0500

No there is no way to sell our product because the price and value are just
not in line. In colored gemstones the "bid" and "asked" price can be wildly
different, so a retail customer must consider the purchase of most colored
stones a total consumption expense. That is why colored stones are hard to
sell. There is almost no residual value.

A diamond however, is easy to sell. A normal in trade sale could be for 20%
to 30% less than Rap. A retail sale (like Blue Nile) will  be about Rap +
plus 5%.  I think that I would buy any accurately graded diamond at 50% of
Rap. So a purchase of a diamond is a risk of 50% . So consumption expense is
known and can be accurately calculated and the diamond can be marketed
instantly.

The cost of enjoying a diamond is then half of the purchase price in my
example. The cost of enjoying a colored stone is all of the purchase price.
Too many people instinctively know this.

You can use this knowledge by adding diamonds to whatever you sell. It may
hurt your pride that you have made so little on the colored stone that you
lovingly cut, but the diamond will end up being 125% of your profit. Yes,
you will subsidize your colored stones with diamond sales. Sorry I do not
know any other way to do it. I have done it successfully for 15 years. If
there is another way I just do not know it.

Generally, I am willing to repurchase diamonds at sale price, but I have
only been asked to do so about half a dozen times. Subsequent sales to the
same people have always been much larger. I then get referrals as well. I do
not say that I will do it, but I have never refused anyone who has asked.

I believe that diamond sales are 90% of the jewelry trade profit. If you
focus your gem business on the portion that does not make a profit you
should not expect to make a profit.

I have noted that if I sell a diamond without selling a colored stone I will
not see the customer again. If I sell a colored stone with a diamond I know
they will be back for more. Never fails.

Ken Ward

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Hi Ken,  Yours is an interesting perception. Persons around here do seem to
wear more diamonds, even if they are around a colored stone. I think you might
be on to something.(at least with my local buyers)

Thurmond

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Message:08

Subject: Re: "Bud"
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:29:36 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Peter L. Herschman, M.D." <herschm@golden.net>

Dear Gerry Galarneau and Friends:

I just received an e-mail from Bud Schroeder letting me know that you had
not intended any disrespect in beginning your post with his first name. I
apologize to you for my initial comment in my note. I had forgotten it was
his first note about copyright which commenced the sequence of exchanges.

Other than that, I think my comments, including those in which I
acknowledged your own generosity, as well as those of the others, can stand,
at least until I'm convinced I was wrong.

Best wishes,

Peter L. Herschman, M.D.


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RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~

Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
http://webdev.archive.org/ then enter www.liccini.com

RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~

Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com

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RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~

Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com

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FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, Tyler Miller,  tmiller277@comcast.net
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
http://www.attawaygems.com/NMFG
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
wrheitland@shaw.ca

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )

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TODAY'S FUNNY ~

Food One-Liners

The snack bar next door to an atom smasher was called "The Fission Chips."

On April Fools Day, a mother put a fire cracker under the pancakes. She blew her stack.

A new chef from India was fired a week after starting the job. He keep favoring curry.

A couple of kids tried using pickles for a Ping-Pong game. They had the volley of the Dills.

The four food groups: Fast, Frozen, Instant, and Chocolate.

A friend got some vinegar in his ear, now he suffers from pickled hearing.

Overweight is something that just sort of snacks up on you.

Sign in restaurant window: "Eat now - Pay waiter."

I thought you were trying to get into shape?
I am. The shape I've selected is a triangle.

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REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:

Subject: A Poem
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:08:37 -0500
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Robert Edgar, Jr" <edgarr@mccc.edu>

This little poem is quoted from a long forgotten source, but good enough
to repeat.


Mineralogically Speaking     (to the tune of Auld Lang Syne)

My Love hath eyes like Azurite
A Cupric Carbonate;
Her cheeks are red as Hematite
She is conglomerate.
Of all that's precious, fair and dear
Her lips are Cinnebar,
Though fair be treasures far and near
Yet she is fairer far.

Her hands and arms are Magnesite
(That's MgCO2).
Her hair is brown as Sphalerite
(That's ZnS, you see).
She's slender as a laccolith
Of metamorphic rock;
A geologic wonder with--
A solid granite block!
 
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

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Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included

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COMPETITIONS:

For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition.  It is called
the North American Faceting  Challenge -- 'NAFC.'   Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of  the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.   The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition.   Please note:  The designs and rules
can be downloaded at  <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003;  the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."   If   further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon

*****


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SHOWDATES:

~ CALIFORNIA


FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
  Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
    At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
           Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003


     You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show.  The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th.  That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday.  The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June.  All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

     The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests.  A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium.  There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels.  Get started on your
competition entry soon.

     The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

     For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below.  Ask for one of the Packets.  Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630        email:   glennklein@yahoo.com

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~TEXAS

Subject: show dates
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:32:31 -0600
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Archie Scott" <asscott2@door.net>

Lubbock Gem and Mineral Society is proud to present it's 45th annual
Gem, Mineral, Fossil,& Jewelry Show.
WHEN: May 17-18, 2003
Where: Lubbock Civic Center, Lubbock, Texas
Time: Sat.5/17: 10am-6pm
      Sun.5/18: 10am-5pm
For more information contact Archie Scott
e-mail: asscott2@door.net
telephone: 806-894-1584       


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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:


KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
faceter@bigfoot.com
Larry W. Davis
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ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net
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INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>
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S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
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MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim
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TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan
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WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
winfielr@inra.nimh.nih.gov
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