LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
Issue No.51 - Friday January 24, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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From The Moderator:
Hi Everyone, Thanks for the tips on faceting
labradorite. Can New Mexico bytonite be treated
similarly when cutting it since it is also a feldspar?
Here is a challenge for each person on the list.
Teach 1 (one) person to cut a stone this year.
It doesn't matter if it is a Cab or a Faceted stone
or even tumbled stones, etc. Get someone new
Above all have fun. Life is too short to be a
curmudgeon although we all are at times.
Index to Today's Digest
01 RE: faceting labradorite
02 RE: faceting labradorite
03 RE: Tumbling Opal
04 Who sells good rough
05 RE: Rural America & Copyright & Business
06 Lapidary Journal
07 RE: Rural America
08 Re: "Bud"
Subject: faceting labradorite
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:50:49 -0700
From: Ernie Hawes <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Thurmond, Labradorite is one of the easiest stones to cut and results
in a truly nice gem.
Simplest thing to do is treat it as if it were quartz, but you'll
be surprised and pleased
at how easy it is to cut and polish. It has none of quartz'
gremlins. To be specific, use
quartz angles, rough in the shape with a 260 or 325 lap, prepolish
on 1200 and polish with
cerium oxide on either lucite or use a Dyna cerium oxide polishing
lap. Do examine the
rough carefully to make sure it hasn't started to cleave.
That's the only bugaboo I've
ever encountered with this material.
Subject: faceting labradorite and more
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:29:55 -0700
From: Steve and Nancy Attaway <email@example.com>
Dear Thurmond and Faceters,
Thurmond, are you planning to facet the 57-carat chunk
as one stone or saw it into several stones? Is the gem rough that
champagne-yellow color often seen in the labradorite found in southwest
New Mexico? Labradorite is pretty easy to cut and polish. It is
gemstone not suitable for rings but looks great in pendants and
in earrings. Labradorite is in the feldspar group and is a variable
aluminum silicate. The one you have is likely a plagioclase feldspar.
would use a new 600-grit lap to begin grinding and move to a 1200-grit
pre-polish lap. You might begin with a worn 260-grit lap, too. Remember
that each grinding lap will leave a damage layer of a certain thickness
that must be totally eliminated by the next finer grit lap, and
to obtain a complete polish. You might also keep the lap speeds
when working with labradorite. Labradorite polishes well on a Last
with 50K or 60K diamond. Cerium laps and corian laps with diamond
also polish the gem material. However, you may have some facet rounding
with these laps. Just the nature of the beast. If you are using
faceting diagram that calls for those long, thin sliver facets,
might very carefully be able to polish them in with a ceramic lap
diamond, but the ceramic lap may be too hard a lap for labradorite
might yield some scratches. Likewise, those tiny star facets on
crown may be polished in with the ceramic lap, providing you are
careful and take your time in doing it. I use this method when working
with peridot, garnet, tourmaline, and beryl. Also, remember that
stone cut with a deep traditional pavilion will stand very high
jewelry mounting, which might make it hard to balance in a
setting. I also try to leave a thick girdle for stones I cut that
slated for jewelry mountings. Those traditional 2% girdles may quite
possibly chip when being set. A thicker girdle will make the cut
more robust for those stones to be set in jewelry. Good luck with
When I began faceting sixteen years ago, I really wanted
hobby to become a proper business. As I was learning to facet, I
to other well-known faceters and jewelers who had gem and jewelry
businesses. They provided advise on record-keeping, licenses, show
participation, displays, and taxes. Even after obtaining all the
documentation and all that went with it, it took some years to better
learn to facet and to become known as a custom facetor. (That also
included becoming a better judge of facet rough and being able to
purchase better and better qualities of gem rough.) Demonstrating
and mineral shows provided an opportunity to meet potential customers
and to show my cut stones. It also provided a means to explain how
stone is actually faceted. (No, we do not cleave stones in the back
of a Mercedes.) Demonstrating also is a magnet for folks interested
learning to cut, and it a provides a place to meet those who already
facet. Steve and I have been dealers at shows for a number of years,
with his gem carvings and I with my faceted gemstones. We also
collaborate on jewelry designs to make custom mountings for many
gemstones. Several noted gem artisans told me some years ago that
one-of-a-kind designs were the recommended pursuit in their business,
rendering wearable pieces of gem/jewelry art, and to refrain from
what is done overseas in mass quantities. Thanks for the forum,
Hi Nancy, I was planning to cut it as an individual stone
in a portuguese
round or Lone Star for my show case. The piece is a light straw
and the bag it was in was marked with Mexico as the origin.
Subject: Re: Issue No.50 - Thursday January 23, 2003 (Message:08)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:54:49 -0500
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Kreigh Tomaszewski <Kreigh@Tomaszewski.net>
The disadvantages of mixing different hardness minerals/rocks in
tumbler load can also work to your advantage.
For example, you have about half a tumbler load of good opal rough
(hardness 5 1/2 -- 6 1/2). If you use some mineral with a hardness
6 as 'filler' you have a good chance of no damage to the opal, and
good stones from the slightly softer 'filler'.
BTW, opal can also go slightly higher if you use garnet for a filler.
breaks down to "garnet fines", which were used before
diamond dust, and
silicon carbide, for lapidary grits (sorted/graded by elutriation).
trick is to use less 'carbo' than usual, run a bit longer to compensate,
and let the garnet 'fines' do their work; carbo seems to be more
than garnet, so it breaks down faster, allowing the garnet to prevail
the long run.
It is always fun to experiment, but I agree that it is generally
(especially with expensive rough) to make each load uniform in both
hardness and mineral/rock type (using a neutral/soft filler as needed)
if you want consistent results.
Subject: Who sells good rough
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:58:31 +0000
From: "Frank Romano" <email@example.com>
I see that the subject of where to buy quality rough had come up
the past, I and others have suggested a seller review (or whatever
to call it), but it's never happened, due in large part to fear
of a libel
suit. Fine. So why don't we post only the GOOD rough
dealers? It wouldn't
take long to deduce who is NOT a good dealer, based on who is.
So, I'll put
the first foot forward and let's see if anybody else is brave enough
stand up to the challenge. My recommendations based on personal
and no other form of compensation are:
1)Ray Gaetan, Jill St. Michael and Gustavo Castelblanco
Accurately graded-you know EXACTLY what you're
going to get. Not everything is 10X inclusion-free (though
most is) but
that allows me to get a well-colored stone at a lower price sometimes.
Their prices range from middle of the road to excellent and they'll
anything they can to help you.
2)Jeff Graham http://www.faceters.com
Accurately graded, HIGH quality
rough, middle of the road pricing, very helpful.
3)Dennis Harmon http://www.selectgemslimited.com
Most of his material isn't
10X inclusion-free, but is fairly graded and offered at some good
SELLS ON APPROVAL. Very accommodating.
4)Ken Newnham http://www.juniperridgeopal.com
This is the new fire opal
mine. I've found the 2 orders plus a sample that I've received
to be fairly
graded and inexpensively priced. I really like this material,
inexpensive, easy to cut and polish and quite unusual.
So, any other takers?
"Gemcutters are Multifaceted Individuals"
Hi Frank, Everyone is welcomed to post any good experience
Complaints about vendors must be handled off list and then ONLY
two involved parties for the exact reason you mention above, Libel.
Subject: RE: Rural America & Copyright & Business
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:33:20 -0600
To: Faceter's Digest <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: gembin <email@example.com>
Hi Ya' All,
I've really enjoyed reading all your posts on this subject. It's
faceting community. I hope no one misunderstood my talking about
and hobby faceters. I offered my thoughts to Gerry as a business
person that has
been there, done that. A business person must overcome all obstacles
are many) or he won't be in business. Politicians, regulations,
liability insurance and medical costs continue to make it tougher
and tougher. I
mentioned the trunk mechanics get the scraps, because they don't
overhead a business man does and consequently many sell their services
minimum wages (or under), to get some extra money for whatever floats
boat. No way would I deny them that. I think it's a great way to
earn a few
I guess I am what would be called a newbie hobbyist cutter. I (so
to speak) am
now in the "scraps" class as a "hobbyist cutter"
is what I meant to convey to
Gerry that he must overcome.
Wilma and I sell a few loose faceted stones (cabs as well), some
set in rings
and pendants at a large flea market one weekend a month (Sat &
Sun) inside a
huge building with heated and cooled comfort and 350 other
vendors that sell
everything imaginable. I have people ask me if I have "such
and such" a stone? I
tell them I'll cut a stone they want and give them an estimated
price. If they
agree, I tell them to come back next month to see it. If you like
if you don't, it won't hurt my feelings because I'll sell it to
another or give
it to someone in my family as a present. About 80 % of them come
back and buy
it. (Hey, Jon, I've got a huge family, too!)
To bring home things for me to enjoy, Wilma goes shopping every
several hours wearing a ring and pendant with stones (or cabs) that
I have cut.
A surprising number of men and women complement her on her jewelry
sparkle. She gives them our card (without our address) but with
our phone #,
email address, web site address and a P.O. Box #. They become customers
occasions... holidays, graduations, etc. I always give them a estimate
them see with no obligation to buy. I do not sell them at a cheap
Yep, Thurmond, the "beer" customers you speak of drop
my stones like a hot
potato and run. haha! I don't sell a ton of stones, just enough
that I can't
seem to accumulate any extras. That way of selling doesn't make
me feel like
it's work, and I make a few bucks by getting the "scraps"
and it floats my boat
for my hobby! I have a tax #, too. I've never approached a jeweler.
By the way Glenn, pour me one of them martinis, will 'ya?
Doug "Rhodolite" Smith
Alton, Illinois, USA
Subject: Lapidary Journal
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:47:21 +0000
From: "Frank Romano" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Has Lapidary Journal always had a featured cut in each issue? I
that finding some old back issues would be a good way to build my
collection (which, by the way, my wife says is already too big:-)
"Gemcutters are Multifaceted Individuals"
From: "Ken Ward" <email@example.com>
Subject: Rural Sales
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:32:01 -0500
No there is no way to sell our product because the price and value
not in line. In colored gemstones the "bid" and "asked"
price can be wildly
different, so a retail customer must consider the purchase of most
stones a total consumption expense. That is why colored stones are
sell. There is almost no residual value.
A diamond however, is easy to sell. A normal in trade sale could
be for 20%
to 30% less than Rap. A retail sale (like Blue Nile) will
be about Rap +
plus 5%. I think that I would buy any accurately graded diamond
at 50% of
Rap. So a purchase of a diamond is a risk of 50% . So consumption
known and can be accurately calculated and the diamond can be marketed
The cost of enjoying a diamond is then half of the purchase price
example. The cost of enjoying a colored stone is all of the purchase
Too many people instinctively know this.
You can use this knowledge by adding diamonds to whatever you sell.
hurt your pride that you have made so little on the colored stone
lovingly cut, but the diamond will end up being 125% of your profit.
you will subsidize your colored stones with diamond sales. Sorry
I do not
know any other way to do it. I have done it successfully for 15
there is another way I just do not know it.
Generally, I am willing to repurchase diamonds at sale price, but
only been asked to do so about half a dozen times. Subsequent sales
same people have always been much larger. I then get referrals as
well. I do
not say that I will do it, but I have never refused anyone who has
I believe that diamond sales are 90% of the jewelry trade profit.
focus your gem business on the portion that does not make a profit
should not expect to make a profit.
I have noted that if I sell a diamond without selling a colored
stone I will
not see the customer again. If I sell a colored stone with a diamond
they will be back for more. Never fails.
Hi Ken, Yours is an interesting perception. Persons around
here do seem to
wear more diamonds, even if they are around a colored stone. I think
be on to something.(at least with my local buyers)
Subject: Re: "Bud"
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:29:36 -0500
From: "Peter L. Herschman, M.D." <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Dear Gerry Galarneau and Friends:
I just received an e-mail from Bud Schroeder letting me know that
not intended any disrespect in beginning your post with his first
apologize to you for my initial comment in my note. I had forgotten
his first note about copyright which commenced the sequence of exchanges.
Other than that, I think my comments, including those in which I
acknowledged your own generosity, as well as those of the others,
at least until I'm convinced I was wrong.
Peter L. Herschman, M.D.
RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~
Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
then enter www.liccini.com
RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com
RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~
Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com
FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~
*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, email@example.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters
Don Cameron: firstname.lastname@example.org
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, email@example.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, Tyler Miller, email@example.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, firstname.lastname@example.org
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, email@example.com
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch firstname.lastname@example.org
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, email@example.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, firstname.lastname@example.org)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write
TODAY'S FUNNY ~
The snack bar next door to an atom smasher was called "The
On April Fools Day, a mother put a fire cracker under the pancakes.
She blew her stack.
A new chef from India was fired a week after starting the job. He
keep favoring curry.
A couple of kids tried using pickles for a Ping-Pong game. They
had the volley of the Dills.
The four food groups: Fast, Frozen, Instant, and Chocolate.
A friend got some vinegar in his ear, now he suffers from pickled
Overweight is something that just sort of snacks up on you.
Sign in restaurant window: "Eat now - Pay waiter."
I thought you were trying to get into shape?
I am. The shape I've selected is a triangle.
REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:
Subject: A Poem
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:08:37 -0500
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <email@example.com>
From: "Robert Edgar, Jr" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
This little poem is quoted from a long forgotten source, but good
Mineralogically Speaking (to the tune of
Auld Lang Syne)
My Love hath eyes like Azurite
A Cupric Carbonate;
Her cheeks are red as Hematite
She is conglomerate.
Of all that's precious, fair and dear
Her lips are Cinnebar,
Though fair be treasures far and near
Yet she is fairer far.
Her hands and arms are Magnesite
Her hair is brown as Sphalerite
(That's ZnS, you see).
She's slender as a laccolith
Of metamorphic rock;
A geologic wonder with--
A solid granite block!
February 6 - February 11, 2003
LOWE ASSOCIATES - Robert P. Lowe Jr. invites you
to visit us in
Booth # 205 at the GJX - Gem & Jewelry Exchange, Downtown Tucson,
TOURMALINES - in Greens, Pinks, Indicolite, Rubelite, Salmon, Yellow,
Silver, Orange, Purple, Bi-color, Tri-color, - sliced, faceted,
cabochons, Paraiba and Rough. TOURMALINES in Watermelon Slices,
Singles, Matched Pairs, Sets, Cabochon Slices, plus all the other
Brazilian Colored Stones, including - Aquamarine, Citrine, Blue
Rutilated Quartz (Calibrated), Imperial Topaz, Alexandrite, Kunzite,
Brazilian Opals - Crystal & Boulder, rare Purple Topaz Specimens,
Amethyst, Morganite, Faceted Gemstone Beads, Emeralds - faceted,
cabochon, carved & Slices, Emerald Faceting Rough, Emerald Crystals,
Emerald Specimens, Emerald Jewelry - And Faceted Spessartite Garnet.
Rough - Dark Aquamarine, Amethyst, Citrine, Spessartite garnet,
Lowe Associates - Robert P. Lowe Jr.
Rua do Mirante, 573
13801-100 Mogi Mirim, SP, Brasil
e-mail: < email@example.com
> in USA
e-mail: < firstname.lastname@example.org
> in Brazil
Diamond Pacific Pixie polishing machine. All 4 Nova wheels recently
with 90 % life...2 Galaxy wheels are at 50% life. A clean, good
machine, priced at $475... E mail me at, Send2mail@aol.com.
From: "RICHARD P ROSENTHAL" <email@example.com>
Green Siberian Nephrite Jade , Jewelry and
Carving grades available sold by the gram, pound kilo or ton excellant
prices and discounts for large amounts. also availble a small amount
"mutton fat" jade. I have slabs and also weathered
interested please reply to firstname.lastname@example.org
Rough to Cut
If you're looking for quality facet rough please check out Rough
We offer a wide range of quality facet rough
from Aquamarine to Zircon. Large selections in stock currently of
Garnets & Tourmalines. Please check us out & when you do,
why not give a
try to our contest, you could win a 5ct + piece of Spessartite garnet
Rough to Cut
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
From: "P. Miklik" <email@example.com>
AVAILABLE FOR SALE
Honey, red & brown zircons, 10g parcels @$20/parcel
Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included
Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs
Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly
included, up to 1g.
Blue Beryl (Aquamarine) $6/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals
Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
Cabbing Grade Aquamarine $3/g
Complete online discount catalog for cabbing and faceting machines,
laps, polishes, diamond saws, diamond blades, and general lapidary
Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6" you can charge
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Golden Chrome Tourmaline, Aquamarine, Spess, Mint and Malaya Garnets,
and more! For photos and more information, visit us at rrgaetan.com.
For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.'
Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note:
The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."
information is needed, please contact me at <firstname.lastname@example.org>.
FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention
California June 6-7-8, 2003
You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.
The Faceters Symposium will feature ten
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.
The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.
For information & costs regarding the
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.
Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630
Subject: show dates
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:32:31 -0600
From: "Archie Scott" <email@example.com>
Lubbock Gem and Mineral Society is proud to present it's 45th annual
Gem, Mineral, Fossil,& Jewelry Show.
WHEN: May 17-18, 2003
Where: Lubbock Civic Center, Lubbock, Texas
Time: Sat.5/17: 10am-6pm
For more information contact Archie Scott
LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:
KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis
ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri)
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: firstname.lastname@example.org
INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields.
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ email@example.com.
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting
cabbing please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org
TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: email@example.com
firstname.lastname@example.org or telephone
361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!
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