LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
Issue No.42 - Monday January 13, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Index to Today's Digest
01 RE: COPYRIGHTS
02 A newbie question
03 Web Site Announcement
04 Fire Opal
05 Rev XS plans.
06 Advertisement: Dendritics Gemscales / Carat Scales
07 LARGE COLLECTION OF LAPIDARY MAGAZINES FOR SALE
Subject: RE: COPYRIGHTS
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 02:52:44 -0600
To: Faceter's Digest <email@example.com>
From: gembin <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Hi Mel Pears & All,
REFER: "If you copyright a design it protects your rights to
it published without your consent. The word here is PUBLISHED.
can use it as much as they want."
I guess I'm hung up on what Clinton said, "It depends on what
What does 'PUBLISHED" mean?
Does it mean you cannot "forward" it to another, as in
Does it mean you cannot "forward" the Lapidary Arts Digest
to another, as in
Does it mean you cannot cut a number of stones that are from a copyrighted
design and sell those stones to the public?
Does it mean you cannot cut a number of stones from a copyrighted
and give them as gifts to acquaintances or relatives?
Does it mean you can cut a number of stones from a copyrighted facet
only keep them for your own personal use?
Doug "Rhodolite" Smith
Alton, Illinois, USA
Hi Doug, I can only comment on one point above. Forward the Digest
you want to. No restrictions there.
Subject: A newbie question
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 07:40:24 EST
I just received hundreds of carats of supposedly 'fine' garnet all
to moderate inclusions and with 50% of the lot with tiny girdle
chips or tiny
chips to the table.
Is garnet hard to get that is clean? All of my other stones are
exceptional from this place, but the Rhodolite garnet is always
Is there a quick way to refinish these stones? I have just
purchased an OLD
spindle polisher grinder it works but I have no training in how
it...seems I should be able to polish these surface imperfections
ruining the table.
What do I use? I haven't purchased any machine for tumbling
yet so your
advice here also would be appreciated.
"The more I learn the less I know."
Subject: Web Site Announcement
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:26:22 -0800
To: 'LapidaryArtsDigest' <email@example.com>
From: John Bailey <firstname.lastname@example.org>
I just finished posting a web site for the Juniper Ridge (facet
Mine. On the site is information about rough for sale, fee-digging,
and polishing, and a tour of the mine.
I'm personally very fond of the material (and of digging here),
and I think
others may be as well if they check it out.
There's an offer on the site for free samples of facet rough.
The URL is www.juniperrridgeopal.com
As webmaster, I'd really appreciate any comments about the site.
Thanks very much, and good meets to all.
Subject: Fire Opal
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:54:23 -0500
From: "Tom Wilkie" <email@example.com>
I recently purchased a couple of smallpieces of Mexican Fire Opal.
have cut many pieces of Mexican cherry opal, but never any fire
Is a step cut normally the best for the fire opal?
Tom Wilkie Kingsport, Tennessee
Subject: Rev XS plans.
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:02:08 -0500
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
At 10:06 PM 1/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Jonathan, Will plans or machines be available? A complete
>faceting solution? That would be way cool !! LOL
I hope to be able to draw it up this time! It was made with more
self-discipline than the first model. I actually took notes,
dodging hot metal chips.
I can hardly wait. I am currently no machinist but I will be. LOL
Subject: Advertisement: Dendritics Gemscales / Carat Scales
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:33:06 -0800
From: "Steven W. De Long" <email@example.com>
I've recently been corresponding with JB (John Borchard) of Dendritics
He has closed his business (it's for sale but no takers so far)
and has a
few scales left, if anyone is interested.
I just purchased his last 125 carat model. I upgraded from
an original 50
carat model I bought two years ago. As many of you know, the
the Cadillac's of the pocket carat scales. I love mine and
I'm sad to see
Dendritics closing its doors so I thought I'd send this notice out
as a sort
of public service announcement and a favor to JB.
The models available are:
Dendritics Millicarat Gemscale (M50)
List Price $595
Sale Price $450
Available: Less than 5
Warranty - One year (originally two but reduced due to sale price
closure of business)
The Millicarat has a 50 carat x .001 capacity and will weight gems
thousandth of a carat. That's three decimal places; i.e. 25.021,
scale was originally designed for the diamond market, has the same
factor as the other gemscales (5 x 3 x 1 inches) and runs for 300
hours on a
Also, JB has one only of the first generation Millicarat scales
List Price $650
Sale Price $595
Available: Less than 5
Warranty - One year (originally two but reduced due to sale price
closure of business)
The D500 has a 500 carat x .01 capacity but also weighs in grams
pennyweights. It's the only scale I know of that has two displays.
the customer and one for the owner. This one is a little larger
at 8 x 7 x
2 inches but still a very portable scale. It will run for
1,250 hours (four
years) on 6 "AA" batteries and has a pan large enough
to weigh 500 carats of
If you are interested in getting a great scale before they pass
contact JB @ firstname.lastname@example.org
and even if you don't want a scale you should
check out the dendritics website @ www.dendritics.com.
The website gives
complete descriptions of all the scales and JB has turned it into
or sorts including some pretty complete descriptions of the technology
involved with the creation of the gemscales.
Also, You might be able to find one of the other models online before
vendors run out (GIA is sold out; Jeff Graham lists the d125 on
but this might be your last shot at a Millicarat, if you want super
accuracy, or a D500, if you need the extra capacity.
PS - these scales were made in the USA.
Subject: LARGE COLLECTION OF LAPIDARY MAGAZINES FOR SALE
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:42:44 -0600
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <email@example.com>
From: "Kathlene R. Maas" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
The time has come for this old timer to
get rid of a lot of her
"stuff". The collection consists of 186 Lapidary
Journals, 26 American
Gemcutter Publications, 2 Rock & Gem Magazines, and 1 Gems &
Magazine-for a total of 215 issues in all. They are in very
condition and span the years from 1964-1999. Lapidary Journal
are complete for 10 of those years, and almost complete for 4 more
years. American Gemcutter Publications run from Jan., 1987,
I will probably put this on Ebay in the
near future, but thought I
would give you folks the first opportunity to make me an offer I
turn down. If you are interested, please e-mail me, and I
will give you
the complete list with all the dates, copies, etc.
RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~
Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
then enter www.liccini.com
RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com
RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~
Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com
FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~
*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, email@example.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters
Don Cameron: firstname.lastname@example.org
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, email@example.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, Tyler Miller, email@example.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, firstname.lastname@example.org
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, email@example.com
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch firstname.lastname@example.org
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, email@example.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, firstname.lastname@example.org)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write
TODAY'S FUNNY ~
At a country-club party a young man was introduced to an attractive
Immediately he began paying her court and flattering her outrageously.
The girl liked the young man, but she was taken a bit aback by his
and ardent pitch. She was amazed when after 30 minutes he seriously
"Look," she said. "We only met a half hour ago. How
can you be so sure?
We know nothing about each other."
"You're wrong," the young man declared. "For the
past 5 years I've been
working in the bank where your father has his account."
REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:
" Promise yourself....to be too large for worry,
Too noble for anger, too strong for fear
And too happy to permit the presence of trouble."
--- Author Unknown ---
Your Quote from Reflections & Tidbits is from the Optimist Creed.
Recited at the close of each Optimist meeting
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Rough to Cut
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
From: "P. Miklik" <email@example.com>
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For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.'
Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note:
The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."
information is needed, please contact me at <firstname.lastname@example.org>.
FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention
California June 6-7-8, 2003
You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.
The Faceters Symposium will feature ten
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.
The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.
For information & costs regarding the
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.
Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630
LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:
KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis
ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri)
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: email@example.com
INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields.
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ firstname.lastname@example.org.
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting
cabbing please e-mail me at email@example.com
TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: firstname.lastname@example.org
email@example.com or telephone
361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!
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