LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
Issue No.41 - Friday January 10, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Index to Today's Digest
01 New Gearloose Faceting Machine
02 Re: copyrights and faceting designs
03 Looking for a source to supply on a regular base
04 Ultra Tec V2 Faceting Machine and accessories for sale.
05 Trades encouraged
Subject: A New Gearloose Faceting Machine!
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:21:03 -0500
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <email@example.com>
Hi folks, presented for your entertainment:
Last November, I returned from a vacation, and produced more than
laps, so I could build inventory, and have the holidays off.
I used this
time to build an all-new "Revision X" Faceting machine,
that I have named
the "Revision XS" because it represents overbuilding carried
(Oh, I am so funny, I just break myself up!)
Entirely of stainless steel, with a few titanium parts, it contains
I felt were needed to the original "Final personal machine".
1) The digital panel meter is sloped at an better ergonomic
easier reading under bright lights.
2) All electronics is fully sealed in the solid stainless main
housing. The original revision X had a separate housing for
Were it not for the micrometer spindle, the faceting head could
submerged in phosphoric acid. The digital meter is a solid
structure as supplied by Datel.
3) All sealed ball bearings are used, including the linear mast
which is stainless.
The timing was perfect. I ran out of BATT Laps yesterday,
so it's Back To
Take a look: http://www.gearloose.com/revx.html
Hi Jonathan, Will plans or machines be available? A complete gearloose
faceting solution? That would be way cool !! LOL
Subject: Re: Issue No.39 - Wednesday January 8, 2003
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:26:49 EST
From: Mel Pears, firstname.lastname@example.org
> . How does a
> copyright on a facet diagram work?
Bud and All: If you copyright a design it protects your rights to
it published without your consent. The word her is PUBLISHED.
can use it as much as they want. Patents are for ideas. There are
categories of patents. Regular, Design, reissues, etc. If an idea
you cannot produce the item, machine, equipment, etc., and sell
there is no restrictions on producing for your own use. I hope this
Subject: Re: Issue No.40 - Thursday January 9, 2003
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:02:54 +0000
From: "lenard TAN" <email@example.com>
Can you help us to post the following message :
We are looking for a source to supply on a regular base :
- Tourmaline rough ( green, pink )
- Mali Garnet ( of size 2 gr and up)
We are looking for faceted gemstones:
- tourmaline ( 5 cts and up)
- citrine ( 20 cts and up )
- peridots ( 20 cts and up)
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:39:10 EST
Ultra Tec V2 Faceting Machine - right-hand base/mast. I bought this
new in May of 2000 and it is still in like-new condition.
I have cut
approximately 150 stones on it and everything is in excellent working
condition. The machine includes all the standard items such
as drip tank,
transfer fixture, 45-degree tabling adapter, 96-index gear, wrenches,
hose, owner's manual and video.
Also included are many optional items such as:
Dial indicator, Flex lamp, Dust cover
4 additional Index gears (64, 80, 72, 120)
32 Flat dops (1-2mm, 1-3mm, 2-4mm, 7-5mm, 7-6mm, 7-8mm, 2-9mm, 2-12mm,
1-14mm, 1-16mm, 1-19mm)
32 Cone dops (1-2mm, 1-3mm, 2-4mm, 7-5mm, 7-6mm, 7-8mm, 2-9mm, 2-12mm,
1-14mm, 1-16mm, 1-19mm)
32 Vee dops (1-2mm, 1-3mm, 2-4mm, 7-5mm, 7-6mm, 7-8mm, 2-9mm, 2-12mm,
8 Emerald dops of various sizes.
If anyone is interested, I will entertain offers for all of this
for the next
couple of days at which time I will probably list it all on eBay.
right price, I can even throw in a couple of laps, used but in good
Feel free to e-mail me off list if you are interested or if you
Subject: Re: Issue No.40 - Thursday January 9, 2003
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:07:22 -0800 (PST)
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: Dale Rhode <email@example.com>
I will gladly trade any kind of rough I have with you. Thats what
this hobby is all about, a
fellowship. Any kind of hobby involves trades from marbles and baseball
cards when were kids, to cars
when were grown....Lapidary, Faceting etc.. it's a good clean hobby
that can involve the whole family.
We make a living off rocks, it is our source of income..Keeping
this fine art fun is our motto...So
anytime you wanna trade just give me a hollar, I'm a rock trading
fool that loves this great hobby and
the rocks the good lord put on this earth for us to enjoy.....Take
Dale Rhode of Rhode Cabbin and Gems http://maxpages.com/biggsjasper
RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~
Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
then enter www.liccini.com
RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com
RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~
Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com
FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~
*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, firstname.lastname@example.org.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters
Don Cameron: email@example.com
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, email@example.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, Tyler Miller, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, email@example.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch email@example.com
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, email@example.com)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write
TODAY'S FUNNY ~
Ways of Knowing You're in the Desert
You no longer associate bridges (or rivers) with water.
You can say 110 degrees without fainting.
You eat hot chilies to cool your mouth off.
You can make instant sun tea.
You learn that a seat belt makes a pretty good branding iron.
The temperature drops below 95, you feel a bit chilly.
You discover that in July, it takes only 2 fingers to drive your
You discover that you can get a sunburn through your car window.
You notice the best parking place is determined by shade instead
Hot water now comes out of both taps.
It's noon in July, kids are on summer vacation, and not one person
is out on the streets.
You actually burn your hand opening the car door.
You break a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 a.m. before
No one would dream of putting vinyl upholstery in a car or not having
Your biggest bicycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked
out and end up lying on the pavement and cook to death?"
You realize that asphalt has a liquid state.
REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:
" Promise yourself....to be too large for worry,
Too noble for anger, too strong for fear
And too happy to permit the presence of trouble."
--- Author Unknown ---
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
From: "P. Miklik" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
AVAILABLE FOR SALE
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Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included
Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
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For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.'
Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note:
The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."
information is needed, please contact me at <email@example.com>.
Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
From: Dan Clayton <firstname.lastname@example.org>
First USFG faceting list design competition.
Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in Colorless or Colored
Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.
Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.
Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.
starting tilt direction 0
ending tilt direction 5 (default)
maximum tilt angle 50
no ( you can enter yes if you wish
but it will fill your disk )
starting file #
increment each run if you wish to save images
Values for ISO will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional
Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.
all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.
more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach.
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have
mentors who are happy to help you.
for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles,
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as
determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance
Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged
I hope this format will encourage design and optimization
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.
FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention
California June 6-7-8, 2003
You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.
The Faceters Symposium will feature ten
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.
The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.
For information & costs regarding the
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.
Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630
LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:
KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis
ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri)
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: email@example.com
INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields.
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ firstname.lastname@example.org.
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting
cabbing please e-mail me at email@example.com
TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: firstname.lastname@example.org
email@example.com or telephone
361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!
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