Issue No.37 - Monday January 6, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Index to Today's Digest

01  Re: Ceramic-related questions
02  Re: Ceramic-related questions
03  Re: Ceramic-related questions
04  Re: Ceramic-related questions
05  Re: Mid West Faceters
06  Re: Gemstone Irradiation
07  Jubilee Project Update
08  Re: Drill holes in gem materials
09  Re: DVue2 and Windows XP
10  Is Robert Strickland's design entry legal?
11  USFG Faceting List Design Contest entry deadline midnight January 10, 2003
12  Faceting Design Templates for USFG facating list design contest
13  Anouncement about BOG and the USFG Faceting List Design Contest


Subject: Re: Issue No.36 - Friday January 3, 2003
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:34:13 EST
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: GEMARTSERV@aol.com

In a message dated 1/3/03 11:48:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lapidary@caprock-spur.com writes:

> Subject: Ceramic Lap
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:56:05 -0500

Hello Ron,    Just to add to the ceramic lap mystique I'll throw in my two
cents worth ,not withstanding Doug Turet's fine set of instructions. I'm glad
however that no one suggested I go through all that work when I started.  I'm
glad for Doug that it works well.  For what it's worth, when I bought my
ceramic lap from Glenn Vargas 11 years ago, all I did was put it on my
machine and spritz it two, maybe three times with 100000 Crystallite diamond
spray and I was off successfully polishing my first sapphire.  Corundum is
the only material I polish on my ceramic, and I have done lots and lots of
them.  Remember, you do not add water as you polish with diamond on ceramic.
I don't know the brand of my ceramic, but it has a shiney side and a dull
side.  I use the shiney side to polish on.  It works beautifully.  When it
slows down I'll spritz it once or twice. If it seems to be building up too
much "gunk", I'll squirt a little Ronsonol lighter fluid on it and keep on
polishing. Glenn says it acts as an "extender". Eventually it may build up
just too much stuff on the surface and start giving some fine "whisker"
scratches. When this happens,( usually ater many stones) I simply take it to
a sink and use a small hand brush with liquid soap and give it a good scrub
and rinse, wipe it off with a towel or paper towel and put it back on my
machine and start over again.
When polishing, you have to press enough to make intimate contact with the
lap and just don't slip around on the lube that is part of the spritz. You
need to feel it drag a little. I store it in a plastic zip-loc bag.
Be careful on small stones that you don't frictionally heat them enough
during polishing to cause shifting.  If that happens, you will get a good
lesson in cheating in every facet you subsequently polish.  I occasionally
dip my stone in my water tank to keep it cool.  (Easy on a separate hand
piece machine, but may not be so easy on a mast type).
I think, in Doug Turet's defense, we must have different brands of ceramic. 
Mine certainly needed no "break in" process.  His obviously did.  Good luck
Jerry Newman,    Gemart Services


Subject: Re:Ceramic Lap
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:59:02 -0800
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Don Rogers <Don@Campbell-gemstones.com>

I don't very often use a ceramic because I have been cutting garnets for
the most part.  I just cut a 3ct sapphire and to polish it, I pulled out my
old ceramic.  To use the ceramic, you need three things in addition to the
diamond spray, a can of Zud, or Bon Ami,  a stiff bristle brush, and a
carpenters pencil.   Prior to each use of the lap, I scrub it down with the
brush and Zud.  I mean really work it.  I try to time it at at least three
minutes of scrubbing.  Then rinse it down completely. again for at least a
full minute.  Dry it off with a paper towel, and then mount it.  Now take
the carpenters pencil, and completely cover the lap with the graphite.  I
fire up the lap at full speed and then slowly work the pencil back and
forth until I have a good film of graphite on the lap.  Now wipe it off
with the paper towel, spritz with your diamond spray and you are in
business.  I use 50K spray and follow up with a quick re-polish of Linde A
on tin for the final finish.

I found that you need to watch this setup, because it is very aggressive
and you can easily over-cut a small facet.



Subject: Ceramic Related Questions
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:33:34 -0700
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

  My lap of choice in the ceramics is a Falcon Lap as others have
stated.  Breaking in the lap has also been well covered.  The only
addition I would add is that once the lap is broken in do not over
charge it.  I use Italdo Spray diamond.  One squirt on the lap spinning
about a 2 on my Facetron speed control. Then I take a fresh paper towel
and lightly take the excess diamond off the lap.  This will last for
about 1/4 of a three carat stone.  Then I clean the lap with alcohol,
spray again, and wipe.  There is enough carrier in the diamond spray to
keep the lap lubricated without adding additional lubrication.
  The one thing I keep on reminding myself is that polishing requires
only light pressure if the surface is properly prepared to polish.  I
use many techniques to prepolish.  Most effective of all seems to be a
3,000 grit prepolish using a glass lap or a 3,000 copper prepolish lap.

  Gerry Galarneau
  G+LW GemMall Booth 111
  Feb 1 - Feb 14, 2003


Subject: Ceramic lap
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:26:07 -0500
To: "Lapidary Arts-faceting" <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Rock Peddler" <rockpeddler@attbi.com>

Doug Turet provided a great detailed description of how to successfully use
a ceramic lap, so I only can add what stones to use it for - use it for the
harder stones, Ron. Especially corundums, spinels, sometimes topaz, CZ, YAG,
synthetic alexandrite. I noticed Doug mentioned polishing garnet with a
ceramic, but my opinion is to use a BATT lap, a tin lap, or even an aluminum
oxide Ultralap to polish garnet.
Jeanne Ridolfi - Rock Peddler
www.rockpeddler.com, www.facetinglaps.com
800-416-4348; M-F, 10:30am - 4:30pm, eastern time


Subject: Midwest Faceters Guild
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 18:58:21 -0500
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Tyler Miller <tmiller277@comcast.net>

In response to Ted Shack's post regarding the Midwest Faceters Guild.  I have contacted Ted off list.

If anyone would like to contact the Midwest Faceters Guild they can contact me until we get a
replacement for Tom Gibbs who passed away last fall.

Thurmond, If you wish you may replace Tom's E-mail address with mine  < tmiller277@comcast.net >
Contact person Tyler Miller.

Thank you
Tyler Miller
Vice President
Midwest Faceters Guild


Hi Tyler, Thanks for the updated information. The old information has been replaced as
you indicated above.


Subject: Irridated Gemstones
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:21:56 -0700
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

  Thank You Jonathan and Robert for your input on radiation.  I will be
further exploring this subject as I have many questions.  I still want
to know about the irritation of quartz to make red, green, and amethyst
colors.  I want to learn more about the irritation of tourmalines and
zircons.  I also want to learn more about what trace elements in a stone
will make it stay hot while a stone with out those trace elements will
cool off rapidly.  Topaz from certain African locations  stays hot for a
long time while stones from Brazil cool off rapidly.
 I am going to be buying a Geiger Counter first to tell me if I am
handling materials that are emitters.  My next purchase will be a dosage
meter.  The dosage meter will come only after I find out if the
materials I am seeing are emitters or not.
  I agree with the remarks about the NRC.  The problem is that the NRC
does not check parcels of gemstones.  They do not have the staff
required to make the checks.  There is no license required that I know
of to import radiated gemstones.  Does anyone else know more about
import of radiated materials?

  Thanks Again,

  Gerry Galarneau
  Tucson 28 days Away, G+LW GemMall Booth111
  Feb1 -Feb 14


Subject: Jubilee Project Update
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:56:25 +0000
To: jubilee@maiko.demon.co.uk
From: Michael Hing <post@maiko.demon.co.uk>

Dear all, here's a message from one of our members about media coverage.
I have a revision course this weekend (I'm doing exams in a couple of
weeks) so please forgive me if I'm a bit behind with correspondence - if
I don't respond to an e-mail, please wait three days and hopefully I
will get back to you!  If I take any longer, please chase me up!

-----Original message-----
Subject:    Jubilee Project
From:       "Paul T. Ahlstedt" <paulahlstedt@earthlink.net>
Reply-To:   paulahlstedt@earthlink.net
Date:       Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:35:46 -0800

Hi Michael, could you distribute this message to your project members for me


Hello Jubilee Project Members,

As I announced through Michael's project list membership a couple of weeks
ago, I am working on magazine coverage for the Queen's necklace project.  I
had asked at that time that all of you contact me and let me know if you would
be interested in providing information for the articles that I will write to
chronicle the story from start to finish.  Several of you contacted me, but
instead of writing all of you individually, I thought it would be easier to
have Michael send this info to you all at the same time to keep everyone

First, I have spoken with Jeff Graham who created the project design, and he
has been most helpful in sharing his side of story, and now I need to ask each
of you to tell me YOUR story and how you got involved with the project.  I
need images of your stones being cut, details of how you cut the stones and
with what machines and equipment, and any other details you believe would be
of interest.  Please compile this information and KEEP it on record - do not
send it to me yet!  I will announce a "collection" mailing address that all of
you can send your materials to.

I will use that information to prepare the articles and create the story
behind the making of the Queen's necklace - and that includes you too Michael!

Ok, that's all for now, so be sure to keep pictures and data about each of
your stones being cut!

Paul Ahlstedt


Subject: Drill holes in gem materials (i.e. "Luminaires")
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:30:43 -0500
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Douglas Turet" <anotherbrightidea@hotmail.com>

Yesterday, Michael wrote:

"The only difficult bit was the hole-drilling (I think that you would
probably need to buy a proper bead-drilling attachment such as the ones that
Foredom and Dremel sell for their handpieces) and the polishing of the
drill-hole.  However, I'm pretty sure that with a bit of patience and maybe
the right size of toothpick it would eventually be possible.  My drill-hole
was rather big because a dental burr isn't really the right size for
bead-work.  Michael Dyber polishes the insides
of his "luminaires" (basically long drill-holes right through a large gem),
so presumably there is some trick to it.  I suspect it involves having a
small rod that is exactly the right diameter for the tube."

Hi Michael,

     Although I haven't stopped to verify any of my assumptions of the
process with Michael Dyber (and can you really blame me, given the
individualistic nature of the carving art?), the topic of these drill-holes
has come up in several discussions I've had, over the last year, or so. As
you might expect, opinions, guesses and convictions about new ideas are a
lot like navels: just about everyone seems to have one!
     As for me, my current opinion/belief is that he's "roughing-out his
holes with a "piano wire" drillbit, surface-plated with nickle-bonded
diamond grit, on a high-speed drill press. Next, I'm betting he's following
this initial drill hole with a series of progressively larger,
perforated-sidewall hypodermic needle-sized tubes, submerged and repeatedly
"bobbed" through baths of oil-thinned diamond compounds, for prepolishing
and polishing (on the same drill press, although set at lower speeds). Such
an arrangement would facilitate the processes of both the mobilization of
the grit particles and the removal of cutting swarf, while simultaneously
reducing the coefficient of drag against the inner walls of the gemstone
"tube", thus reducing the chances of fracture, due to dissimilar expansion
of the host material. If you have some time, rough and equipment on your
hands, and would like to either prove or disprove my theories, you can order
the sizes of tubing you'll need through:

Small Parts
Box 381966
Miami, FL 33238-1966 U.S.A.
(305) 751-0856

     (FWIW: I have not dealt with this company, to date, and certainly don't
have any fiscal interest in mentioning them, but did have a chance to flip
through one of their catalogs, while studying out in CA, last summer. Neat
stuff! Another great "gadget site" for related goodies for the workbench is
<www.micromark.com> which I think, if you haven't visited it already, you
may just come to appreciate!) Let me know how you make out, Mike!

All my best,

Douglas Turet, GJ
Lapidary Artist, Designer & Goldsmith.
Turet Design
P. O. Box 162
Arlington, MA 02476, U.S.A.
Tel. (617) 325-5328
Fax: (928) 222-0815
Email: anotherbrightidea@hotmail.com


Subject: WINDOWS XP and DVue2
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:35:00 +1000
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Arch & Jan Morrison" <archnjan@serv.net.au>

<From Ernie Hawes and, later, Tom Pyles
Help.  Has anyone had a problem setting up DataVue2 in Windows XP?
I'm getting error messages when I do a query.  Also, the windows version

of GemCad can't access the DataVue2 files. >

I have installed DVue2 in Windows XP and it operates with no problem -
so don't despair - at least you know that they are not incompatible :>)
My installation is the 1996 version plus the 1999 files update, however,
if you had a version which worked before with an earlier version of
Windows, then I would expect it to work with XP. Check that you have
successfully installed the basic DVue2 program and then overwritten with
the data files. (You can do this by opening Windows Explorer and looking
in the DVue2 program to see that the "STO files" - such as GASC0101.STO
- have data in them and aren't empty 0KB files). Just in case it helps I
shall list below the sequence I used when I installed it on my system.
1. Install DVue2 Base Program (Run Setup)
2. Install DVue2 updates (Open and Extract to DVue2). [At this point I
still have 0KB STO files and same lack of access as you have]
3. Open DVue2 in Windows Explorer and double-click each update and
EXTRACT to C:\DVue2 with "ALWAYS OVERWRITE". [This step writes the file
data into the original blank STO place settings]

Hope that the above may turn out to be of some assistance.
Arch Morrison
Buderim, Queensland (Beautiful one day - Perfect the next), Australia


Subject: Is Robert Strickland's design entry legal?
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:31:56 -0500
To: Faceters List<faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

I have been asked if Robert Strickland's entry in the USFG faceting
list design contest is legal. I have analyzed it and I think it falls
within the rules. It has fantastic ISO at 0 thru 50 degree tilt. You
can use the scoring tool he developed to optimize your own designs.
There is a downside to his design that if you rotate the stone the
performance is rather poor. I think I understand how this design will
look in living stone but I hope Robert cuts one and brings it to the
hobnob so we can all be sure. There is a rumor that another design
tool will be released tonight or tomorrow. I think this will be

Dan Clayton


Subject: Enter the USFG Faceting List Design Contest by midnight January 10, 2003
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:54:58 -0500
To: Faceters and Lapidary Digest <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

Do not forget to post your entry for the contest by midnight January
10, 2003. Design entries should be uploaded  with your name and score
in the description at:


If you wait until near the deadline or have trouble uploading your
file/s  please email me a copy as well to dclayton@speakeasy.org with
score, name and email included. If several people have trouble
uploading we may have a little clinic on using the Yahoo Groups site.

Rules and announcement:

are published daily in the Contest Section below

and are posted at


Robert has his scoring and design aide tool available at


A new design tool for this contest will be announced soon.

Dan Clayton

Subject: Faceting Design Templates for USFG facating list design contest
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:34:08 -0500
To: Faceters and Lapidary Digest <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

There is a modification class in the USFG Faceting List Design
Contest. You can take any public domain design and modify facets or
angles to submit in this class. You can use newer copyrighted designs
with the permission of the copyright holder. The designs below are my
copyright and I give anyone permission to modify them for the
contest. They are not optimized for topaz so that is your assignment
if you accept.

All design templates are posted at:


5 of the design templates are posted at:


the 2 newest design templates are posted at:


There are several design mentors available on the various faceting
lists. You can email me if you run into problems or discus on one
of the lists or at=20


Dan Clayton


Subject: Anouncement about BOG and the USFG Faceting List Design Contest
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:03:27 -0500
To: Faceters and Lapidary Digest <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

Tom Herbst has released a special version of BOG, a Better Optimizer
for Gemray, which uses GemRayX as specified in the USFG Faceting
List design contest. I am not sure if he posted the announcement here
so I am adding this preface. You can get the special USFG list version
of BOG at:



Hi Tom,

I want to thank you for modifying BOG for the design contest. I still
see many recent designs that need to be run thru a tool like this and
of course a tool is priceless in a contest such as we are running now.
I do appreciate your effort developing this tool and also holding off
full implementation until the contest is finished. I understand your
reluctance to enter the design contest yourself since you think there
would be an unfair advantage or the perception of one. I hope that
does not prevent you from releasing your optimizations immediately
after the contest. I am sure many of us would be interested in your
results. I would like to see a rule set like the one used in this
contest refined and offered in BOG. Just as I will not cut a design I
have not proof cut in GemCad I do not cut a design without testing
in GemRayX. It is good to see that we have another tool to make
this step easier. I like your idea of using a reference design to
compare with a current working design.

I hope quite a few of you take a look at Tom's tool and Robert's
little tools for use in the contest and apply them to your personal

Dan Clayton



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Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com



Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com


FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, Tyler Miller,  tmiller277@comcast.net
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )



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"Ill bet you don't know what day this is."

"Of course I do," he answered as if he was offended, and left for the office.

At 10:00 a.m., the doorbell rang and when the woman opened the door,
she was handed a box of a dozen long stemmed red roses. At 1:00 p.m.,
a foil-wrapped, two-pound box of her favorite chocolates was delivered.
Later, a boutique delivered a designer dress.

The woman couldn't wait for her husband to come home.

"First the flowers, then the chocolates and then the dress!" she exclaimed.

"I've never had a more wonderful Groundhog Day in my life!



"Take time to work, it is the price of success.
Take time to think, it is the source of power.
Take time to play, it is the secret of perpetual youth.
Take time to read, it is the foundation of wisdom.
Take time to be friendly, it is the road to happiness.
Take time to dream, it is hitching your wagon to a star.
Take time to love & be loved, it is the privilege of the gods.
Take time to look around, it is too short a day to be selfish.
Take time to laugh, it is the music of the soul."

--- Old English Prayer ---


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Subject: AD
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

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For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition.  It is called
the North American Faceting  Challenge -- 'NAFC.'   Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of  the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.   The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition.   Please note:  The designs and rules
can be downloaded at  <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003;  the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."   If   further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon


Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

First USFG faceting list design competition.

Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in  Colorless or Colored Topaz

Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone judging
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.

Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list site
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.

Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.

RI                                       1.61
head shadow                      5 degrees
ignore glare                     no (default)
tilt movie                       yes (default)
starting tilt direction    0
ending tilt direction     5 (default)
maximum tilt angle      50
tilt increment                   10
suppress VGA                     no (default)
concave                          no (default)
COS files                        no (default)
ISO files                                no ( you can enter yes if you wish
 but it will fill your disk )
DISP files                       no (default)
exit files                               no (default)
starting file #                  increment each run if you wish to save images

Values for ISO  will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional

Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.


 all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.

more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
 as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so but most
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach. This
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that you
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter as a
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have design
mentors who are happy to help you.

for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright holder
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles, new tiers
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance as you

Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished stone
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC Hobnob in
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged

I hope this format will encourage design and optimization  oldtimers and
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and interest.
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.

Dan Clayton




  Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
    At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
           Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003

     You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show.  The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th.  That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday.  The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June.  All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

     The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests.  A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium.  There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels.  Get started on your
competition entry soon.

     The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

     For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below.  Ask for one of the Packets.  Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630        email:   glennklein@yahoo.com



KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis

ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net

INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>

S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)

MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim

TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan

WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield

Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!


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