LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
Issue No.35 - Thursday January 2, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Index to Today's Digest
01 Re: Irradiated Gemstones
02 Re: Irradiated Gemstones
03 DVue2 and Windows XP
04 Ceramic Polishing
05 Re: Cabbing on a Faceting Machine
06 Better gem photos
07 BIG fossil
08 FS: Florida Rock Shop
09 FS: Facet Rough
Subject: Irradiated Gemstones.
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:12:38 -0500
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <email@example.com>
> Do you know the minimum required
>radiation that is acceptable for exposure to humans in commercial
The objective is called "ALARA", As Low As Reasonably
radiation. Generally in the workplace(General Population,
Whole Body) ,
more than 0.5 rems/year is restricted. People working in the
industry are limited to 3 rems/quarter, or 12 rems/year or 5 rems/year
We had a worker who used to store his dosimeter in the pencil cup
desk...Along with his spare thoriated tungsten welding electrodes,
caused me no end of grief and a paperwork nightmare with the NRC
mystery was solved.
Beta radiation, most usually encountered with neutron treated materials
not as penetrating as gamma. The stolen Gold 198 that was
wedding rings caused superficial burns on the customers, but no
> My main concern is that a lot of the rough and cut material
>we will be seeing in the near future will be coming from places
>Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, China, Brazil, and Africa.
>beryl, topaz, and tourmaline are the main crystals being radiated
>as I have been able to obtain information. Were the samples
>pink & multicolored tourmaline, heliodor beryl; green, gold,
>red quartz, any of the topaz coming from Pakistan? These
>crystals being treated in countries where the safety measures
>different from the ones we use in the USA.
I have not personally checked them from these sources.
Stones treated with neutrons can produce beta emissions. Usually
isotopes are short-lived and can sit and "Cool down" before
shipped. One particular type of tourmaline can produce a longer
manganese isotope that has caused problems.
Isotopes made in a reactor or by neutron irradiation are considered
'Byproduct" isotopes, and the NRC is really strict about their
licensing. The people who make smoke detectors had to jump
through a lot
of hoops to satisfy the NRC about the alpha sources used in them
Irradiated stones will not be imported without an NRC Release, so
not matter what countries or what local standards are used elsewhere.
NRC is generally a collection of nice people, but they have no sense
humor about certain things like activated consumer products and
Any Gieger type counter will detect Beta and Gamma. The most
models are not always the best for gemstone surveys. There
is a modestly
price one that has a long, semi-exposed tube running down one side
that would be better for beta surveys than the more expensive Monitor
that has a smaller, deeply mounted detector.
The excerpt below regards topaz, one of the most frequently treated:
(I bet I am not the only one who misses Mark Liccini! He could
this off the top of his head!):
"1) Gamma Cells - exposure to a gamma ray source (60Co commonly
produce both blue and yellow color centers in some topaz, resulting
brownish or brownish-green color. Subsequent heating removes the
stable yellow color centers without affecting the blue. Such treatment,
though once common, is not widely used today because it is not capable
producing the darker, purer blues that are in highest demand and
be created by the other techniques described below. The light blue
produced by gamma ray treatment has been given the trade name "Cobalt
Blue". Darker blue stones that have undergone such a treatment
grayish blue ("steely" blue). Gamma ray treatment is used
more often today
as a "pretreating" or screening process that can reveal
stones that are
more likely to be susceptible to treatment by the higher energy
described below; such stones will take on a bluish tint during this
2) Linear Accelerators ("linac" treatment) - topaz
exposed to high energy
electron beam. Process generates considerable heat; topaz is water
to avoid thermal shock and spontaneous destruction of color centers.
Process must be followed by heat treatment, as above, to destroy
unwanted, less stable yellow color centers. Result is typically
blue stone (with little to no gray; trade name "Sky Blue")
than can be
produced by gamma ray treatment, but one that is radioactive for
period of time. Such stones must be allowed to sit for a couple
of weeks in
order for the residual radiation to decline to safe levels.
3) Nuclear Reactors - topaz exposed to fast neutrons, producing
color. No subsequent heating required. Color is typically a medium
grayish blue, sometimes described as "steely" or "inky".
Trade name for
this material is "London Blue". Heat treatment can be
used to lighten the
inky cast. Material treated this way is likely to be quite radioactive
may require several months or more of storage before the radioactivity
decays to safe levels. All material treated this way falls under
jurisdiction of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission; all producers
importers of this material must be licensed by the NRC.
4) Combination Treatments - treatments combining nuclear reactor,
accelerator and heating to produce dark blue colors without the
of the London Blue material. Trade names for this material include
Blue", "Super Blue", "New Blue", "Swiss
Blue", "Max Blue", "American Blue",
"California Blue", and "Super Sky Blue".
Subject: Irradiated Material from Brasil
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:34:23 -0300
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <firstname.lastname@example.org>
From: "Robert P. Lowe Jr." <email@example.com>
27 December 2002
>My main concern is that a lot of the rough and cut material
>we will be seeing in the near future will be coming from
>places like Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, China, Brazil,
Brasil apparently has only one irradiation Facility. It is in the
city of Sao Paulo and is called Embrarad. It is a Cobalt 60 Gamma
facility whose main activity is irradiating seeds and sterilizing
medical equipment and spices etc. Also some foodstuffs are irradiated
to preserve them.
In the past, White Topaz was irradiated at this facility to turn
Blue Topaz. The cobalt 60 gamma ray irradiation will make sky blue
and some grayish London Blue colors. But the world market soon developed
a taste for many other variations of Blue Topaz and now almost the
entirety of all Blue Topaz irradiation of Brazilian Material is
the USA in either Nuclear Reactors or Linear accelerators. The material
irradiated in the USA is subject to the strict controls on the level
residual radiation and the materials are held at the irradiation
facility until the government required maximum levels are reached.
One other material that has been irradiated in Brasil was beryl
produce Yellow Beryl (heliodor). But it was found that Yellow Beryl
required a very high level of gamma ray irradiation to turn it into
stable pleasant yellow color and it was subsequently found that
accelerator could do this job much more efficiently than the
installations in Brasil - thus again almost all of this material
being treated in the USA.
Recently Fluorite has been treated by the cobalt 60 gamma ray
irradiation to turn it into a Tanzanite blue color. This material
apparently being sold mostly in the orient.
According to a cobalt 60 gamma ray irradiation facility that I visited
in the USA, at the request of one of the Brazilian producers, -
gemstone material irradiated by this process has no residual radiation.
The representative of the facility demonstrated the safety of the
material by popping a recently irradiated stone into his mouth.
Lowe Associates - Brasil
Gemstones, Rough, Specimens
Tucson - February 6 - 11, 2003 - GJX # 205
e-mail: USA <firstname.lastname@example.org>
e-mail: Brasil <email@example.com>
Subject: DVue2 and Windows XP
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:15:19 -0700
From: Ernie Hawes <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Help. Has anyone had a problem setting up DataVue2 in Windows
I'm getting error messages when I do a query. Also, the windows
of GemCad can't access the DataVue2 files. If someone has
please feel free to e-mail me off-list.
Albuquerque, NM USA
Subject: Ceramic Polishing
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:21:06 -0600
To: Faceter's Digest <email@example.com>
From: gembin <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Hi Doug Turet & All,
REFER: Your post on ceramic laps in the Faceters Digest for January
"and I've always gone back to Crystallite's isopropyl-and-wax
which has never, ever (not even once, in over 10,000 stones) balled
up on me!"
Doug, I read your post with interest in the Faceter's Digest when
I was first
trying my hand at faceting. I have now decided to bite the bullet
stones harder than the quartz and garnet family. I intend to purchase
Falcon ceramic lap and Jonathan's Batt lap. I was impressed with
your post. I
assume it means you have not been plagued with scratches when polishing
ceramic (as many have complained when using ceramic to polish).
Can you or any other of you list members tell me what suppliers
Crystallite's isopropyl-and-wax based formula? What size diamond
grits do you
recommend to polish CZ and corundum on ceramic? Any tips will be
Doug "Rhodolite" Smith
Alton, Illinois, USA, where we had a beautiful White Christmas!
(sort of a BIO on Wilma an me)
Subject: Re: Cabbing on a Faceting Machine
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:33:18 -0800
From: "Jill St. Michael" <email@example.com>
As always, THANKS! to everyone who offered insightful methods for
my Raytech. I decided to jump right in to get a "feel"
for it and first
cabbed a nice little Chrome Pyrope. I have a photo of the experimental
Pyrope cab, if anyone is interested... To cab the little begger,
standard grinding and polishing laps. Grinding wasn't so bad, but
polishing...ha! Round stone, flat lap - do the math - it took me
But I was semi-patient. I was almost done when I decided to
refine a small
area on the girdle. That's when I learned: never allow the angle
of the dop
to fall beneath the parallel plane of the lap. The lap wrenched
pyrope right off the dop and violently catapulted it across the
room.... 10 minutes later I found it, took a photo and plopped
it in a
baggy with the label "Experiment #1."
On the second experiment, I preformed and pre-polished using standard
but for polishing, I tried a suggestion from Gustavo Castelblanco.
I cut a
medium-thick piece of felt to fit my 6" master lap, and sandwiched
between the master lap and the polishing lap (ultra lap). Worked
We'd gotten some beautiful gel Sugilite in yesterday and I HAD to
piece before bed time. Awesome! The felt provides just enough
providing greater surface contact between stone and lap, thereby
significantly less patience. A much better equation for me... :-)
I cut a
teardrop shaped, grape-purple, cabochon. When I get it off the dop,
labeled "Experiment #2." A few more stones to improve
my symmetry and I'm on
Seriously considering writing a step-by-step ePub on the subject,
on a co-author (Frank Romano) to offer the Dremel method.
I'll post an
announcement if/when the doc is published...
Thanks again and best wishes to all of you for a healthy, happy
Jill St. Michael
RRGaetan Gem Rough
Subject: Better gem photos
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:50:56 +0000
From: "Frank Romano" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
I don't know how many of you read Discover magazine, but I just
something that's of interest to many of us on the list. My
contains an article titled "The Next Photography Revolution",
wants to go get a copy later. The short version, in layman's
terms, is that
a new kind of color sensor called the X3 has been developed in which
"pixel" can "detect" all 3 primary colors, as
opposed to current digital
camera sensors that are only able to detect and interpret one at
Thich results in some amazing pictures, some samples of which are
article. Their quality, as shown in the magazine rivals that
of the $2300
Nikon F5, a conventional 35mm.
The only camera currently made using this technology is manufactured
Sigma (the SD9 model) which is currently supposed to sell for $1800.
Better gem photos are on their way!
"Gemcutters are Multifaceted Individuals"
PS Anybody out there decides to get one of these babies after
comes down a bit that already has a Nikon 900 and wants to unload
me a line :-)
Subject: BIG fossils
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 23:51:30 -0600
From: Downey <email@example.com>
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Florida Venture Available
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:47:40 -0500 (EST)
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Jack
Hi Thurmond. The attached is about a dear friend and his wife from
years we wintered in Florida(from Canada) He was my mentor and Faceting
teacher and had the privelege of using a good deal of his equipment
buying tumbling rough and equipment, a couple of faceting machines
etc. Am in a retirement home, still faceting some at 88 and off
biased about Bill Harris but in no way associated with his business.
would take too long to list the details of Bill's business but for
instance he was Graves west Fl. agent, Distributor for Raytech
industries for Florida. A Goldsmith, Silversmith,-- all the Faceting
Lapidary Arts teacher andsupplier.
What I would like to see is his notice
placed wherever you might
think appropriate in The Digest. Also a web site is being prepared
I will forward when I hear it is ready. Hilda his wife is the one
communicate with as Bill is totally deaf.
Happy New Year to you and as usual I will
await tomorrow's Digest!!
Here is the link to the shop. Thurmond
Thought you'd be interested or may know of someone interested in
business for sale.
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:00:15 -0500
From: "Rudy Klein.B.Sc." <email@example.com>
Since I am not able to facet anymore,I have some
found;probably have more.
Iolite/Kenya...2 pieces..4.7 & 8.4cts.
Tourmaline/chrome...3 pieces..approx. 10cts.
Scapolite...6 pieces..12x18 to 15x18mm
p.s. My balance is broken.Pictures available if requested.
RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~
Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
then enter www.liccini.com
RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com
RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~
Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com
FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~
*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, firstname.lastname@example.org.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters
Don Cameron: email@example.com
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, email@example.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, email@example.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch email@example.com
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, email@example.com)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write
TODAY'S FUNNY ~
A minister and a lawyer arrived at the pearly gates. Saint Peter
greeted both of
them and gave them their room assignments.
"Pastor, here are the keys to one of our nicest efficiency
units," said St. Peter.
"And for you, Mister Lawyer," smiled St. Peter, "the
keys to our finest
Penthouse Suite atop our Heavenly High Rise Building with all the
expansive windows offer a beautiful view of the Angels as they come
and go. If
you need anything, feel free to push the service buzzer!"
"This is unfair!" cried the Minister.
"Listen," St. Peter said, "ministers are a dime a
dozen up here. This is the
first Lawyer we've ever seen!"
Submitted by ~ Doug Smith
REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:
Happy Home Recipe
4 cups of love
2 cups of loyalty
3 cups of forgiveness
1 cup of friendship
5 spoons of hope
2 spoons of tenderness
4 quarts of faith
1 barrel of laughter
pinch of kindness and understanding
Take love and loyalty mix it throughly with faith. Blend it with
tenderness, kindness and understanding. Add friendship and hope.
Sprinkle abundantly with laughter. Bake it with sunshine. Serve
I don't know where I got this but I believe this is the best "New
wish I could send all of you.
Kind regards from Turkey,
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For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.'
Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note:
The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."
information is needed, please contact me at <email@example.com>.
Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
From: Dan Clayton <firstname.lastname@example.org>
First USFG faceting list design competition.
Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in Colorless or Colored
Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.
Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.
Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.
starting tilt direction 0
ending tilt direction 5 (default)
maximum tilt angle 50
no ( you can enter yes if you wish
but it will fill your disk )
starting file #
increment each run if you wish to save images
Values for ISO will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional
Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.
all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.
more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach.
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have
mentors who are happy to help you.
for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles,
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as
determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance
Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged
I hope this format will encourage design and optimization
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.
FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention
California June 6-7-8, 2003
You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.
The Faceters Symposium will feature ten
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.
The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.
For information & costs regarding the
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.
Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630
LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:
KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis
ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri)
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: email@example.com
INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields.
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ firstname.lastname@example.org.
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting
cabbing please e-mail me at email@example.com
TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: firstname.lastname@example.org
email@example.com or telephone
361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!
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