Issue No.35 - Thursday January 2, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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From the Moderator: I hope everybody had a happy
holiday season. All non permanent adds have been
removed as they will be at the first of any month.
If you wish your ad to be included in the digest please
send it in with the subject as FS or AD.

Index to Today's Digest

01  Re: Irradiated Gemstones
02  Re: Irradiated Gemstones
03  DVue2 and Windows XP
04  Ceramic Polishing
05  Re: Cabbing on a Faceting Machine
06  Better gem photos
07  BIG fossil
08  FS: Florida Rock Shop
09  FS: Facet Rough


Subject: Irradiated Gemstones.
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:12:38 -0500
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <webmaster@gearloose.com>

>  Do you know the minimum required
>radiation that is acceptable for exposure to humans in commercial

The objective is called "ALARA", As Low As Reasonably Achievable for
radiation.  Generally in the workplace(General Population, Whole Body) ,
more than 0.5 rems/year is restricted.  People working in the nuclear
industry are limited to 3 rems/quarter, or 12 rems/year or 5 rems/year average.
We had a worker who used to store his dosimeter in the pencil cup on his
desk...Along with his spare thoriated tungsten welding electrodes, and this
caused me no end of grief and a paperwork nightmare with the NRC until the
mystery was solved.
Beta radiation, most usually encountered with neutron treated materials is
not as penetrating as gamma.  The stolen Gold 198 that was made into
wedding rings caused superficial burns on the customers, but no other deep
organ damage.

>  My main concern is that a lot of the rough and cut material
>we will be seeing in the near future will be coming from places like
>Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, China, Brazil, and Africa.  Quartz,
>beryl, topaz, and tourmaline are the main crystals being radiated as far
>as I have been able to obtain information.  Were the samples you checked
>pink & multicolored tourmaline, heliodor beryl; green, gold, smokey, or
>red quartz, any of the topaz coming from Pakistan?  These are the
>crystals being treated in countries where the safety measures may be
>different from the ones we use in the USA.

I have not personally checked them from these sources.
Stones treated with neutrons can produce beta emissions.  Usually these
isotopes are short-lived and can sit and "Cool down" before they are
shipped.  One particular type of tourmaline can produce a longer lived
manganese  isotope that has caused problems.
Isotopes made in a reactor or by neutron irradiation are considered
'Byproduct" isotopes, and the NRC is really strict about their
licensing.  The people who make smoke detectors had to jump through a lot
of hoops to satisfy the NRC about the alpha sources used in them (Americium
and Californium).
Irradiated stones will not be imported without an NRC Release, so it does
not matter what countries or what local standards are used elsewhere.  The
NRC is generally a collection of nice people, but they have no sense of
humor about certain things like activated consumer products and stray
plutonium, etc.
Any Gieger type counter will detect Beta and Gamma.  The most expensive
models are not always the best for gemstone surveys.  There is a modestly
price one that has a long, semi-exposed tube running down one side of it
that would be better for beta surveys than the more expensive Monitor EC4,
that has a smaller, deeply mounted detector.
The excerpt below regards topaz, one of the most frequently treated:
(I bet I am not the only one who misses Mark Liccini!  He could rattle all
this off the top of his head!):

"1) Gamma Cells - exposure to a gamma ray source (60Co commonly used) will
produce both blue and yellow color centers in some topaz, resulting in a
brownish or brownish-green color. Subsequent heating removes the less
stable yellow color centers without affecting the blue. Such treatment,
though once common, is not widely used today because it is not capable of
producing the darker, purer blues that are in highest demand and that can
be created by the other techniques described below. The light blue color
produced by gamma ray treatment has been given the trade name "Cobalt
Blue". Darker blue stones that have undergone such a treatment are often
grayish blue ("steely" blue). Gamma ray treatment is used more often today
as a "pretreating" or screening process that can reveal stones that are
more likely to be susceptible to treatment by the higher energy techniques
described below; such stones will take on a bluish tint during this initial

  2) Linear Accelerators ("linac" treatment) - topaz exposed to high energy
electron beam. Process generates considerable heat; topaz is water cooled
to avoid thermal shock and spontaneous destruction of color centers.
Process must be followed by heat treatment, as above, to destroy the
unwanted, less stable yellow color centers. Result is typically a deeper
blue stone (with little to no gray; trade name "Sky Blue") than can be
produced by gamma ray treatment, but one that is radioactive for a short
period of time. Such stones must be allowed to sit for a couple of weeks in
order for the residual radiation to decline to safe levels.

  3) Nuclear Reactors - topaz exposed to fast neutrons, producing blue
color. No subsequent heating required. Color is typically a medium to dark
grayish blue, sometimes described as "steely" or "inky". Trade name for
this material is "London Blue". Heat treatment can be used to lighten the
inky cast. Material treated this way is likely to be quite radioactive and
may require several months or more of storage before the radioactivity
decays to safe levels. All material treated this way falls under the
jurisdiction of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission; all producers and
importers of this material must be licensed by the NRC.

4) Combination Treatments - treatments combining nuclear reactor, linear
accelerator and heating to produce dark blue colors without the "inkiness"
of the London Blue material. Trade names for this material include "Electra
Blue", "Super Blue", "New Blue", "Swiss Blue", "Max Blue", "American Blue",
"California Blue", and "Super Sky Blue".


Subject: Irradiated Material from Brasil
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:34:23 -0300
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Robert P. Lowe Jr." <robertplowejr@uol.com.br>

27 December 2002

 >My main concern is that a lot of the rough and cut material
 >we will be seeing in the near future will be coming from
 >places like Pakistan, Vietnam, North Korea, China, Brazil,
 >and Africa.

Brasil apparently has only one irradiation Facility. It is in the
city of Sao Paulo and is called Embrarad. It is a Cobalt 60 Gamma Ray
facility whose main activity is irradiating seeds and sterilizing
medical equipment and spices etc. Also some foodstuffs are irradiated
to preserve them.

In the past, White Topaz was irradiated at this facility to turn it into
Blue Topaz. The cobalt 60 gamma ray irradiation will make sky blue topaz
and some grayish London Blue colors. But the world market soon developed
a taste for many other variations of Blue Topaz and now almost the
entirety of all Blue Topaz irradiation of Brazilian Material is done in
the USA in either Nuclear Reactors or Linear accelerators. The material
irradiated in the USA is subject to the strict controls on the level of
residual radiation and the materials are held at the irradiation
facility until the government required maximum levels are reached.

One other material that has been irradiated in Brasil was beryl to
produce Yellow Beryl (heliodor). But it was found that Yellow Beryl
required a very high level of gamma ray irradiation to turn it into a
stable pleasant yellow color and it was subsequently found that a linear
accelerator could do this job much more efficiently than the
installations in Brasil - thus again almost all of this material is
being treated in the USA.

Recently Fluorite has been treated by the cobalt 60 gamma ray
irradiation to turn it into a Tanzanite blue color. This material is
apparently being sold mostly in the orient.

According to a cobalt 60 gamma ray irradiation facility that I visited
in the USA, at the request of one of the Brazilian producers, - the
gemstone material irradiated by this process has no residual radiation.
The representative of the facility demonstrated the safety of the
material by popping a recently irradiated stone into his mouth.

Best regards
Robert Lowe
Lowe Associates - Brasil
Gemstones, Rough, Specimens
Tucson - February 6 - 11, 2003 - GJX # 205
e-mail: USA    <robertplowejr@juno.com>
e-mail: Brasil <robertplowejr@uol.com.br>


Subject: DVue2 and Windows XP
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:15:19 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Ernie Hawes <ehawes7@comcast.net>

Help.  Has anyone had a problem setting up DataVue2 in Windows XP? 
I'm getting error messages when I do a query.  Also, the windows version
of GemCad can't access the DataVue2 files.  If someone has the solution,
please feel free to e-mail me off-list. 


Ernie Hawes
Albuquerque, NM USA


Subject: Ceramic Polishing
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:21:06 -0600
To: Faceter's Digest <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: gembin <gembin@spiff.net>

Hi Doug Turet & All,

REFER: Your post on ceramic laps in the Faceters Digest for January 11, 2000...
"and I've always gone back to Crystallite's isopropyl-and-wax based formula,
which has never, ever (not even once, in over 10,000 stones) balled up on me!"

Doug, I read your post with interest in the Faceter's Digest when I was first
trying my hand at faceting. I have now decided to bite the bullet and facet
stones harder than the quartz and garnet family. I intend to purchase a Graves
Falcon ceramic lap and Jonathan's Batt lap. I was impressed with your post. I
assume it means you have not been plagued with scratches when polishing on
ceramic (as many have complained when using ceramic to polish).

Can you or any other of you list members tell me what suppliers sell
Crystallite's isopropyl-and-wax based formula? What size diamond grits do you
recommend to polish CZ and corundum on ceramic? Any tips will be

Doug "Rhodolite" Smith
Alton, Illinois, USA, where we had a beautiful White Christmas!
http://www.spiff.net/~gembin     (sort of a BIO on Wilma an me)


Subject: Re: Cabbing on a Faceting Machine
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:33:18 -0800
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Jill St. Michael" <jsdp@san.rr.com>

Hi All,

As always, THANKS! to everyone who offered insightful methods for cabbing on
my Raytech. I decided to jump right in to get a "feel" for it and first
cabbed a nice little Chrome Pyrope. I have a photo of the experimental
Pyrope cab, if anyone is interested...  To cab the little begger, I used
standard grinding and polishing laps. Grinding wasn't so bad, but
polishing...ha! Round stone, flat lap - do the math - it took me forever!
But I was semi-patient.  I was almost done when I decided to refine a small
area on the girdle. That's when I learned: never allow the angle of the dop
to fall beneath the parallel plane of the lap. The lap wrenched my little
pyrope right off the dop and violently catapulted it across the living
room....  10 minutes later I found it, took a photo and plopped it in a
baggy with the label "Experiment #1."

On the second experiment, I preformed and pre-polished using standard laps,
but for polishing, I tried a suggestion from Gustavo Castelblanco. I cut a
medium-thick piece of felt to fit my 6" master lap, and sandwiched it
between the master lap and the polishing lap (ultra lap). Worked great!!
We'd gotten some beautiful gel Sugilite in yesterday and I HAD to cab a
piece before bed time.  Awesome! The felt provides just enough "give,"
providing greater surface contact between stone and lap, thereby requiring
significantly less patience. A much better equation for me... :-)  I cut a
teardrop shaped, grape-purple, cabochon. When I get it off the dop, it'll be
labeled "Experiment #2." A few more stones to improve my symmetry and I'm on
my way.

Seriously considering writing a step-by-step ePub on the subject, and taking
on a co-author (Frank Romano) to offer the Dremel method.  I'll post an
announcement if/when the doc is published...

Thanks again and best wishes to all of you for a healthy, happy and
prosperous 2003!!

Jill St. Michael
RRGaetan Gem Rough


Subject: Better gem photos
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:50:56 +0000
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Frank Romano" <romanfj@hotmail.com>

Hi, everyone!
I don't know how many of you read Discover magazine, but I just found
something that's of interest to many of us on the list.  My December issue
contains an article titled "The Next Photography Revolution", if anybody
wants to go get a copy later.  The short version, in layman's terms, is that
a new kind of color sensor called the X3 has been developed in which each
"pixel" can "detect" all 3 primary colors, as opposed to current digital
camera sensors that are only able to detect and interpret one at a time. 
Thich results in some amazing pictures, some samples of which are in the
article.  Their quality, as shown in the magazine rivals that of the $2300
Nikon F5, a conventional 35mm.
The only camera currently made using this technology is manufactured by
Sigma (the SD9 model) which is currently supposed to sell for $1800.
Better gem photos are on their way!
Frank Romano
"Gemcutters are Multifaceted Individuals"

PS  Anybody out there decides to get one of these babies after the price
comes down a bit that already has a Nikon 900 and wants to unload it, drop
me a line :-)


Subject: BIG fossils
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 23:51:30 -0600
From: Downey <alckytxn@swbell.net>



Subject: Fwd: Fw: Florida Venture Available
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:47:40 -0500 (EST)
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: dojac@webtv.net (Jack Denne)

Hi Thurmond. The attached is about a dear friend and his wife from the 27
years we wintered in Florida(from Canada) He was my mentor and Faceting
teacher and had the privelege of using a good deal of his equipment and
buying tumbling rough and equipment, a couple of faceting machines etc
etc. Am in a retirement home, still faceting some at 88 and off course
biased about Bill Harris but in no way associated with his business. It
would take too long to list the details of Bill's business but for
instance he was Graves west Fl. agent, Distributor for Raytech
industries for Florida. A Goldsmith, Silversmith,-- all the Faceting and
Lapidary Arts teacher andsupplier.
     What I would like to see is his notice placed wherever you might
think appropriate in The Digest. Also a web site is being prepared which
I will forward when I hear it is ready. Hilda his wife is the one to
communicate with as Bill is totally deaf. 
     Happy New Year to you and as usual I will await tomorrow's Digest!!
Jack Denne.

Here is the link to the shop.  Thurmond

Thought you'd be interested or may know of someone interested in a
business for sale.


Subject: Rough...
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:00:15 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Rudy Klein.B.Sc." <ikeytess@sympatico.ca>

    Since I am not able to facet anymore,I have some rough I
found;probably have more.
   Iolite/Kenya...2 pieces..4.7 & 8.4cts.
   Tourmaline/chrome...3 pieces..approx. 10cts.
   Scapolite...6 pieces..12x18 to 15x18mm
   Kashan ruby...10x10x6mm
   p.s. My balance is broken.Pictures available if requested.



Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
http://webdev.archive.org/ then enter www.liccini.com


Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com



Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com


FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: tgibbs@compuserve.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )



A minister and a lawyer arrived at the pearly gates. Saint Peter greeted both of
them and gave them their room assignments.

"Pastor, here are the keys to one of our nicest efficiency units," said St. Peter.

"And for you, Mister Lawyer," smiled St. Peter, "the keys to our finest
Penthouse Suite atop our Heavenly High Rise Building with all the amenities. The
expansive windows offer a beautiful view of the Angels as they come and go. If
you need anything, feel free to push the service buzzer!"

"This is unfair!" cried the Minister.

"Listen," St. Peter said, "ministers are a dime a dozen up here. This is the
first Lawyer we've ever seen!"

Submitted by ~ Doug Smith



Happy Home Recipe

4 cups of love
2 cups of loyalty
3 cups of forgiveness
1 cup of friendship
5 spoons of hope
2 spoons of tenderness
4 quarts of faith
1 barrel of laughter
pinch of kindness and understanding

Take love and loyalty mix it throughly with faith. Blend it with
tenderness, kindness and understanding. Add friendship and hope.
Sprinkle abundantly with laughter. Bake it with sunshine. Serve daily
generous helpings.

I don't know where I got this but I believe this is the best "New Year"
wish I could send all of you.
Kind regards from Turkey,
Oya Borahan


Rough to Cut
If you're looking for quality facet rough please check out Rough to Cut,
http://www.roughtocut.com. We offer a wide range of quality facet rough
from Aquamarine to Zircon. Large selections in stock currently of Beryl,
Garnets & Tourmalines. Please check us out & when you do, why not give a
try to our contest, you could win a 5ct + piece of Spessartite garnet
facet rough.

Rough to Cut


Subject: AD
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

Contact b-daw@pacbell.net

Honey, red & brown zircons, 10g parcels @$20/parcel

Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included

Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs

Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly         
included, up to 1g.

Blue Beryl (Aquamarine) $6/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals
Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
zoned green
Cabbing Grade Aquamarine $3/g


Rock Peddler
Complete online discount catalog for cabbing and faceting machines, wheels,
laps, polishes, diamond saws, diamond blades, and general lapidary supplies
at http://www.rockpeddler.com.


Gewelers Gems
e-mail: sales@jewelersgems.com
Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6"  you can charge both sides with
diamond. http://www.jewelersgems.com/faceting_laps.htm


NOW ONLINE!  RRGaetan Gem Rough - Featuring excellent, facet-grade,
Colombian Emerald rough! PLUS, Chrome Tourmaline, Achroite Tourmaline,
Golden Chrome Tourmaline, Aquamarine, Spess, Mint and Malaya Garnets,
and more! For photos and more information, visit us at rrgaetan.com.




For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition.  It is called
the North American Faceting  Challenge -- 'NAFC.'   Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of  the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.   The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition.   Please note:  The designs and rules
can be downloaded at  <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003;  the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."   If   further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon


Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

First USFG faceting list design competition.

Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in  Colorless or Colored Topaz

Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone judging
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.

Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list site
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.

Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.

RI                                       1.61
head shadow                      5 degrees
ignore glare                     no (default)
tilt movie                       yes (default)
starting tilt direction    0
ending tilt direction     5 (default)
maximum tilt angle      50
tilt increment                   10
suppress VGA                     no (default)
concave                          no (default)
COS files                        no (default)
ISO files                                no ( you can enter yes if you wish
 but it will fill your disk )
DISP files                       no (default)
exit files                               no (default)
starting file #                  increment each run if you wish to save images

Values for ISO  will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional

Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.


 all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.

more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
 as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so but most
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach. This
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that you
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter as a
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have design
mentors who are happy to help you.

for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright holder
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles, new tiers
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance as you

Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished stone
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC Hobnob in
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged

I hope this format will encourage design and optimization  oldtimers and
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and interest.
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.

Dan Clayton




  Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
    At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
           Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003

     You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show.  The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th.  That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday.  The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June.  All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

     The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests.  A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium.  There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels.  Get started on your
competition entry soon.

     The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

     For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below.  Ask for one of the Packets.  Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630        email:   glennklein@yahoo.com



KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis

ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net

INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>

S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)

MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim

TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan

WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield

Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!


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