Issue No.74 - Wednesday February 26, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre


From the Moderator:  Good list today thanks
to your post. Keem 'em comming in.

Index to Today's Digest

01  NEW: Rock Boring Drill Press
02  NEW: Semi-Auto Cabbing machine is NOT for sale.
03  RE: Opal Myths
04  RE: Tumbling soft stones
05  RE: Tumbling soft stones
06  RE: Tumbling Cabochons
07  WTB: Steatite (soapstone)
08  RE:  Source for buying diamonds
09  SD:  Mesa AZ Gem, Mineral & Lapidary Show


Subject: Rock Boring Drill Press
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:57:33 -0500
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "kulaczp" <kulaczp@pivot.net>

Just picked up an old rock boring drill and wondered if anyone has
experience with drilling out plugs from minerals. It has a unique feature of
having an automatic drill cycle. The drill actually goes up and down by
itself whill boring . It came with numerous sized steel hole cutters . I
would like to know what abrasives to use with this unit. It is small and
barely 22 inches tall but beautifully manufactured and in new condition.
Would like to cutout rounds for cabachons and or cut out holes for making
candle holders out of mineral specimens........HELP......!!

Peter /  Maine


Subject: new
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:59:28 -0500 (EST)
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Tim Vogle <birdman@mindspring.com>

The cabbing machine I mention before is not forsale.  I just thought people
might interested in seeing pictures.  I will send
Thurmond pictures this weekend.


Tim Vogle

Tim Vogle
Tim Vogle's SE Exotic Bird Fair


Hey Tim,  How many offers or inquiries did you receive? Can't wait to see the pics.



Subject: RE: Issue No.73 - Tuesday February 25, 2003
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:54:27 -0500
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Naomi Sarna" <nsarna@earthlink.net>

Hello to all, The message regarding opals as a bad myth was very interesting
to me.  I'm writing a book about the 1066 era and any unusual information
about the jewelry and gems of the time would be greatly appreciated. I have
the usual scholarly resources, but odd things pop up here and there.  Many
thanks, Naomi in New York


Subject: Tumbling soft stones
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:24:58 +0000
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: denney.wilson@att.net

Tumbling soft stones can be a real problem.  One way to avoid problems is to
use the grit dry.  This does not always work and will take a lot longer, but it
will sometimes(usually) give a good polish.  You have to do all grits this way
for it to work well.  Another way to avoid the orange peel is to put small
pieces of leather (about the same size as your average stone) in volume about
equal to your stones and then polish normally.  Needless to say, you need
different leather for each grit!  Also, always make certain the stones are
thoroughly clean between steps!!! Even a trace of an earlier grit can destroy
your results with soft stones.  It is even a good idea to use separate barrels
or bowls, if you can, for each stage.  Good luck.


Subject: Re: Tumbling soft stones
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:40:19 -0800
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Tony <lightbender@thegemdoctor.com>

On February 25, 2003 11:30 am, you wrote:
>  I presume any comments will be  relevant to both
> amber and opal; how about other soft stones, i.e. turquoise,
> feldspars, etc?.  Thanks for your thoughts. Naomi in New York

Hello Naomi,

You are discovering that there is a definite skill to tumbling,
it is certainly not the mindless lapidary art that many suppose.
I was going to write a long message describing some of the more
common methods of polishing the stones you mention but decided
to check the search engines first.....haha all the really useful
advice I found was...guess where, the Lapidary Arts archives!

 I'm sorry to tell you that your presumption is not quite correct
as all difficult stones have unique and differing qualities that
will require different approaches for satisfactory results.
Needless to say you will find more than one solution for every
stone you mention.



Subject: Re: tumbling cabochons
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:42:09 -0800
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Tony <lightbender@thegemdoctor.com>

On February 25, 2003 11:30 am, you wrote:
> It does not finish the cab just a rough grind and then tumble
> to finish.  it will do a 30 by 40 preform
> in about 45 seconds

Hello Tim,

The trick when tumble finishing cabs is to glue them back to back
in pairs. This keeps the stones close to the calibrated size as
the girdle edge is now protected from excessive abrasion. it
also ensures that you have no dimples in the back. The only
downside is you have an unpolished back.

HTH, Tony.


Subject: Steatite (soapstone)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:05:45 -0500
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Tyler Miller <tmiller277@comcast.net>

Hi Thurmond,

Our rock and gem club has ask me to see if I can find a source for Steatite
(soapstone).  We have gone out to some of our local schools and gave
demonstrations and displays and some hands-on with the kids.

If any of the list members knows of a source or has some to sell we would be

Thanks in advance,

Tyler Miller
Flint, Michigan


Subject: Source for buying diamonds
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:29:43 -0800
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Don Fisher" <fishbonedroy@msn.com>

Hi Thurmond
A few weeks ago, there was some discussion on the digest about where to buy
I seem to remember that there was a source recommended that sold small diamonds
with a choice of quality.    I suddenly have a need for a third of a carat
size.    Could you tell me the name and the address of that source. I do
appreciate it.

Don in Des Moines, WA where the sun shines all the time.


Hi Don,  I was going to suggest the archives on the site but they are currently offline.
I have my web designer looking into the issue as he inadvertantly deleted the site a
couple of days ago. Once they are working again I will send a link for the issue that had
the information you wanted.



Subject: Mesa AZ Gem, Mineral & Lapidary Show
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:44:42 -0700
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: John McLaughlin <jemstone@amug.org>

Hi All,

The Maricopa Lapidary Society is hold its 53rd annual gem, mineral and lapidary
art show on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, February 28th through March 2nd.  The show will
be at the Mesa Centennial Center, 263 N. Center St., Mesa, AZ.

Show hours are: Friday and Saturday 10am to 5pm.  Sunday 10am to 4pm.

There will be SEXy jewelry, NAKED rocks, WOMEN's rings AND WINE colored stones.

For the women, unfortunately, MEL GIBSON AND TOM CRUISE and the rock band  BARENAKED
ladies will be unable to attend.

Please come and spend lots of money.

John McLaughlin
Glendale, Arizona













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