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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No.60 - Thursday February 6, 2003
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Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
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Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Index to Today's Digest

01  RE: Star sapphire orientation methods
02  RE: Star sapphire orientation methods

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Message:01

Subject: Re: Issue No.58 - Tuesday February 4, 2003
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:00:31 -0500
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Donald Allen <donallen@gwi.net>

Hi, Thurmond,

RE:
Subject: Star sapphires
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:08:53 -0700
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: <wreisbick@mho.net>

This is my first time to post a question, so it is a new experience. I
have approximately a pound of star sapphire rough that looks like so
many rocks but they all have the ability to star. They also change
appearance drasticly when polished. I bought this rough to practice with
but so far I seem to be  missing the mark. Is there an easy method of
locating the correct position to grind the stone?
Walter
wreisbick@mho.net


The discription I've found the best, so far, on the topic of cutting
star material in " Gemcraft  How to cut and polish gemstones Quick &
Lieper. Chapter 7 -> How to cut Star and Cat's Eye Gems ( my newest copy
is from 1971). Finding good quality Star/Cat's eye material is a far
more difficult matter.

Don

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Message:02

Subject: Re: Star sapphires (long) (Part 2))
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:00:00 -0500
To: wreisbick@mho.net
From: "Douglas Turet" <anotherbrightidea@hotmail.com>
Cc: lapidary@caprock-spur.com

Message:


Hi again, Walter,


     Thanks for the positive feedback -- I'm glad I was able to help you
out. Since writing that letter, I've realized that there really needs to be
a "Part 2" to it, not only for your benefit, but also for anyone else who
might ever want to cut a star stone. As such, I hope you won't mind that I'm
Cc'ing this letter to the list. There is, however, one detail I'd neglected
to mention: that Rutile-crystal "silk" _only_ faces-up as such when you're
looking head on at the C-axis. From all other directions, all you'll see is
a muddy (or greyish) version of the stone's primary bodycolor. The easiest
way to orient the stone for the best silk and is to grab a brass nail or
thick wire and either some Karo syrup (yeah, I know how messy & sticky it
is, but it sure washes off quickly, unlike most oils) or a spray-bottle of
your favorite detergeant, and smear or spray a little of it on the ends of
the stone, once you've identified them (as outlined in my previous letter).
Once you have effectively wet the surface of the stone, stand next to a
draftsman's lamp (or any lamp with an opaque shade, for that matter) and
roll the rough stone under the light, in your fingers.
     Now, are you familiar with that sheen that shows up at certain angles
on a Tigereye slab or Moonstone, or on the side of a fiberglass rod? Well,
that's the look you're after -- that momentary 'flash', as light reflects
off of it. Now, to complicate matters just slightly, you're also going to
need to know that Corundum crystals are not only hexagonal but sort of
barrel-shaped, as well. In other words, they taper off at both ends. The
reason you need to know this is that, for whatever reason, the Rutile
crystals seem to grow best towards the center of the crystals -- by that, I
mean about halfway down the length of the piece, rather than at its
innermost core -- and, opposed to this, each crystal's best color and
translucency are located down at their narrower ends.
     The reason why all of this should matter to you is that, when all is
said and done, the most valuable Star Rubies and Star Sapphires you'll find
are those whose stars seem to float almost magically, atop a nicely-colored,
highly translucent cabochons. As such, your goals in cutting these roughs
can best be broken down and explained by these  eight simple steps:

1)  Roll stone to identify partial or absolute crystal shape;
2)  Orient the stone so that its hexagonal sides are vertical;
3)  Wet outer surface and check for silky flash under lamp;
4)  Use a brass scribe (aluminum doesn't work as well), mark a line
     parallel to the base of the crystal (i.e. perpendicular to the
     direction of the C-axis). Draw line all the way around stone.
5)  Saw rough at line, then clean rough and attach dopstick on new base.
6)  Cut stone so that height of top of crown's curvature measures no
     more than 35% of the width of the stone.
7)  Continue to check for centeredness and brightness of star.
8)  Enjoy your newly-finished stone!

Again, glad to help out. Congrat's (in advance) on your first successful
cabochon.

All my best,
Doug

Douglas Turet, GJ
Lapidary Artist, Designer & Goldsmith.
Turet Design
P. O. Box 162
Arlington, MA 02476, U.S.A.
Tel. (617) 325-5328
Fax: (928) 222-0815
Email: anotherbrightidea@hotmail.com


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RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~

Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
http://webdev.archive.org/ then enter www.liccini.com

RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~

Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com

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RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~

Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com

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FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, Tyler Miller,  tmiller277@comcast.net
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
http://www.attawaygems.com/NMFG
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
wrheitland@shaw.ca

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )

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TODAY'S FUNNY ~



Where do ants go for their holidays?
Frants!

What do you call an ant who skips school?
A truant!

What do you get if you cross some ants with some tics?
All sorts of antics!

What do you call a greedy ant?
An anteater!

Why did the elephant put his trunk across the path?
To trip up the ants!

What is even bigger than an elephant?
A giant!

What do you call an ant in space?
Cosmonants & Astronants!

What do you call an ant from overseas?
Important!

What medicine would you give an ill ant?
Antibiotics!

What is smaller than an ant's dinner?
An ant's mouth!


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REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:

" Great occasions do not make heroes or cowards, they simply unveil
them to the eyes of men. Silently and imperceptibly we grow weak or
strong; and at last some crisis shows us what we have become."

--- Author Unknown ---

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To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

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COMPETITIONS:

For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition.  It is called
the North American Faceting  Challenge -- 'NAFC.'   Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of  the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.   The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition.   Please note:  The designs and rules
can be downloaded at  <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003;  the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."   If   further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon

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SHOWDATES:

~ CALIFORNIA


FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
  Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
    At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
           Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003


     You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show.  The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th.  That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday.  The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June.  All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

     The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests.  A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium.  There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels.  Get started on your
competition entry soon.

     The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

     For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below.  Ask for one of the Packets.  Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630        email:   glennklein@yahoo.com

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~TEXAS

Lubbock Gem and Mineral Society is proud to present it's
45th Annual Gem, Mineral, Fossil,& Jewelry Show.
WHEN: May 17-18, 2003
Where: Lubbock Civic Center, Lubbock, Texas
Time: Sat.5/17: 10am-6pm
          Sun.5/18: 10am-5pm
For more information contact Archie Scott
e-mail: asscott2@door.net
telephone: 806-894-1584       


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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:


KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
faceter@bigfoot.com
Larry W. Davis
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ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net
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INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>
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S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
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MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim
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TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan
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WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
winfielr@inra.nimh.nih.gov
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