LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
Issue No.60 - Thursday February 6, 2003
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Index to Today's Digest
01 RE: Star sapphire orientation methods
02 RE: Star sapphire orientation methods
Subject: Re: Issue No.58 - Tuesday February 4, 2003
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:00:31 -0500
From: Donald Allen <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Star sapphires
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:08:53 -0700
This is my first time to post a question, so it is a new experience.
have approximately a pound of star sapphire rough that looks like
many rocks but they all have the ability to star. They also change
appearance drasticly when polished. I bought this rough to practice
but so far I seem to be missing the mark. Is there an easy
locating the correct position to grind the stone?
The discription I've found the best, so far, on the topic of cutting
star material in " Gemcraft How to cut and polish gemstones
Lieper. Chapter 7 -> How to cut Star and Cat's Eye Gems ( my
is from 1971). Finding good quality Star/Cat's eye material is a
more difficult matter.
Subject: Re: Star sapphires (long) (Part 2))
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 21:00:00 -0500
From: "Douglas Turet" <email@example.com>
Hi again, Walter,
Thanks for the positive feedback -- I'm
glad I was able to help you
out. Since writing that letter, I've realized that there really
needs to be
a "Part 2" to it, not only for your benefit, but also
for anyone else who
might ever want to cut a star stone. As such, I hope you won't mind
Cc'ing this letter to the list. There is, however, one detail I'd
to mention: that Rutile-crystal "silk" _only_ faces-up
as such when you're
looking head on at the C-axis. From all other directions, all you'll
a muddy (or greyish) version of the stone's primary bodycolor. The
way to orient the stone for the best silk and is to grab a brass
thick wire and either some Karo syrup (yeah, I know how messy &
is, but it sure washes off quickly, unlike most oils) or a spray-bottle
your favorite detergeant, and smear or spray a little of it on the
the stone, once you've identified them (as outlined in my previous
Once you have effectively wet the surface of the stone, stand next
draftsman's lamp (or any lamp with an opaque shade, for that matter)
roll the rough stone under the light, in your fingers.
Now, are you familiar with that sheen that
shows up at certain angles
on a Tigereye slab or Moonstone, or on the side of a fiberglass
that's the look you're after -- that momentary 'flash', as light
off of it. Now, to complicate matters just slightly, you're also
need to know that Corundum crystals are not only hexagonal but sort
barrel-shaped, as well. In other words, they taper off at both ends.
reason you need to know this is that, for whatever reason, the Rutile
crystals seem to grow best towards the center of the crystals --
by that, I
mean about halfway down the length of the piece, rather than at
innermost core -- and, opposed to this, each crystal's best color
translucency are located down at their narrower ends.
The reason why all of this should matter
to you is that, when all is
said and done, the most valuable Star Rubies and Star Sapphires
are those whose stars seem to float almost magically, atop a nicely-colored,
highly translucent cabochons. As such, your goals in cutting these
can best be broken down and explained by these eight simple
1) Roll stone to identify partial or absolute crystal shape;
2) Orient the stone so that its hexagonal sides are vertical;
3) Wet outer surface and check for silky flash under lamp;
4) Use a brass scribe (aluminum doesn't work as well), mark
parallel to the base of the crystal (i.e.
perpendicular to the
direction of the C-axis). Draw line all
the way around stone.
5) Saw rough at line, then clean rough and attach dopstick
on new base.
6) Cut stone so that height of top of crown's curvature measures
more than 35% of the width of the stone.
7) Continue to check for centeredness and brightness of star.
8) Enjoy your newly-finished stone!
Again, glad to help out. Congrat's (in advance) on your first successful
All my best,
Douglas Turet, GJ
Lapidary Artist, Designer & Goldsmith.
P. O. Box 162
Arlington, MA 02476, U.S.A.
Tel. (617) 325-5328
Fax: (928) 222-0815
RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~
Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
then enter www.liccini.com
RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com
RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~
Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
My Gemologist http://www.mygemologist.com
FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~
*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, firstname.lastname@example.org.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters
Don Cameron: email@example.com
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, email@example.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, Tyler Miller, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, email@example.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch email@example.com
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, email@example.com)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write
TODAY'S FUNNY ~
Where do ants go for their holidays?
What do you call an ant who skips school?
What do you get if you cross some ants with some tics?
All sorts of antics!
What do you call a greedy ant?
Why did the elephant put his trunk across the path?
To trip up the ants!
What is even bigger than an elephant?
What do you call an ant in space?
Cosmonants & Astronants!
What do you call an ant from overseas?
What medicine would you give an ill ant?
What is smaller than an ant's dinner?
An ant's mouth!
REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:
" Great occasions do not make heroes or cowards, they simply
them to the eyes of men. Silently and imperceptibly we grow weak
strong; and at last some crisis shows us what we have become."
--- Author Unknown ---
February 6 - February 11, 2003
LOWE ASSOCIATES - Robert P. Lowe Jr. invites you
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TOURMALINES - in Greens, Pinks, Indicolite, Rubelite, Salmon, Yellow,
Silver, Orange, Purple, Bi-color, Tri-color, - sliced, faceted,
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Singles, Matched Pairs, Sets, Cabochon Slices, plus all the other
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Brazilian Opals - Crystal & Boulder, rare Purple Topaz Specimens,
Amethyst, Morganite, Faceted Gemstone Beads, Emeralds - faceted,
cabochon, carved & Slices, Emerald Faceting Rough, Emerald Crystals,
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e-mail: < firstname.lastname@example.org
> in USA
e-mail: < email@example.com
> in Brazil
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For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.'
Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note:
The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."
information is needed, please contact me at <email@example.com>.
FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention
California June 6-7-8, 2003
You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.
The Faceters Symposium will feature ten
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.
The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.
For information & costs regarding the
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.
Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630
Lubbock Gem and Mineral Society is proud to present it's
45th Annual Gem, Mineral, Fossil,& Jewelry Show.
WHEN: May 17-18, 2003
Where: Lubbock Civic Center, Lubbock, Texas
Time: Sat.5/17: 10am-6pm
For more information contact Archie Scott
LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:
KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis
ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri)
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: firstname.lastname@example.org
INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields.
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ email@example.com.
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting
cabbing please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org
TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: email@example.com
firstname.lastname@example.org or telephone
361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!
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