Issue No. 119 - Wednesday April 30, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Index to Today's Digest

01  NEW: Stone holder
02  RE: Beginners
03  RE: FS: Another GemMaster II for sale


Subject: Stone holder
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:38:34 +0100
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Gustavo Castelblanco" <mail@montana78.freeserve.co.uk>

Hi Everyone,

Last night I went to my faceters meeting and was looking at some of the
ways my faceter friends are going to be displaying their stones in the
next North West Lapidary Society meeting. I saw one piece of clear
plastic cut at an angle on the top, with a hole in the middle to place
the stone. It looked very nice and I told my friend John Hamer " I
wonder how gemstones will photograph using that device?". Every time I
make a suggestion about something to do with faceting or anything else,
John always comes with an invention. He is just amazing. Today I went to
see John as we were working on some dops and he surprised me with his
idea. He though about what I said the previous night, and a very simple
yet extremely helpful gadget was on the table. John showed it to me and
I just started laughing and complementing him for his inventive mind.

I added a photo of the holder for photographing gemstones and a photo of
a gemstone I took using John's device in my web site
http://mysite.freeserve.com/gemstones/ I have only taken one photo using
it and I know it's a winner. I will get better as I practise more.
Notice that the stone is really facing the camera and it shows exactly
what you see when you view the stone face up. It's really good. I wanted
to share this with all of you. I recall many messages from people asking
for advise about how to take gemstones photos and I think this device
will be of great help.

I would describe the stone holder as follows:
It is easily made from an old CD box. Drill a hole in one side with a
countersink, (preferably one with less than 90 degrees included angle)
deep enough to hold the stone you want to photograph. In one corner near
the hinge on the same side, drill and tap a hole any size, to take a
fairly long screw or bolt you have available. Screwing the bolt in or
out slowly tilts the stone and it stays in position to around 60 degrees
from horizontal. It can also be rotated to any angle without disturbing
the stone. As everything is transparent, you have real control of any
lighting. In the one in the photograph, the sides of the case near the
stone have been cut off, which gives a clearer view but is not really
necessary. Placing a white or grey paper at the back of the stone
improves de quality of the stone photo in a big way. I hope this will
help in the search for those elusive beautiful gemstone photos that we
are seeking for all the time.

Changing the subject I wanted to thank you all for your friendship and
sharing so many wonderful tips and general knowledge about faceting. I
have made so many good friends through the lists that I feel very
fortunate. The time has come for me to go back to my country. I should
be leaving in about a week and a half. I guess I will not have much time
to write to you guys for the time being. I will have to start from
scratch, buy a new computer, look for an office and faceting place etc,
so it will be a while before I get back to you. I will miss you very
much. I look forward to cutting some really nice emeralds and I will try
to share with you anything that I may consider of interest for the list.

God bless you all.

Your friend,



Hi Gustavo,  The stone holder is a great idea. I plan to build one for displaying
multiple stones in our annual show coming up May 17 and 18th.
When you get situated back home we will be looking forward to having you
back in the group. Have a safe trip.



Subject: Beginners
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:03:10 +0100
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Russell Taylor" <silver.leys@btopenworld.com>


Many thanks to everyone who posted comments on the digest and who
emailed me directly giving starters advice to me  - I have found it very
useful and (perhaps not surprisingly) have seen a great deal of
consistency in the comments.
I feel I am now committed so, on to the biggest hurdle - persuading my
wife to give me space (and a budget) - for my lapidary equipment of

Thanks again




Hi Russell,  Good luck on that last hurdle. It is frequently a big one. LOL



Subject: RE: FS: Another GemMaster II for sale
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:03:28 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Kevin Bloom <bloomk@comcast.net>

Hello all,

Sorry I neglected to mention that the GemMaster II is a Fac-ette.

Kevin Bloom









PERSONALS: (General Lapidary and Faceting)




Lurking is fine, but participation is better for learning !
Post something from your experiences in gemcutting today!


Ode to Olivine in Thin Section, a poem by Brenna Lorenz

In basalt a lurid green
Bespeaks the savage olivine;
Mantle's child, born of fire,
Restless in the open air,
Little beads of anger bear
The torture of desire.

Silica upon its face
It suffers, helpless, in disgrace,
Its powers of reaction bound
By solid's bond and cage,
In agony confined to rage
Unstable and unsound.

Its birefringent power plays
The sifted light to rare displays;
The haunting, primal colors tell
Of fire and fury's flag unfurled,
Flag of fluid, nether world,
Beneath the fragile shell.



The important thing is not to stop questioning.

--- Albert Einstein ---




We at L&M gems are making some changes to our business.  As part of these
changes, we will be closing out most of the material we have on our
website at huge savings. If you want anything, now is the time to get it
while it's on sale because a lot of what doesn't sell at sale prices will
be removed.

This sale includes a minimum of 40% off most items.  Some items more - and
sometimes much more, like 75% off some items  How about 50% off on
amethyst, 50% off most rhodolite garnets, 60% off green/yellow diopside,
50% off kornerupine, 60% off a zircon parcel, 55% off that huge
actinolite, 55% off all alexandrite, 55% off all bulk malaya color garnet,
60% off mixed yellow scapolite.  The few exceptions that are that less
than 40% are 25% off red spinel and all sapphire rough, and 20% off all
select tourmaline.  We will be adding some items to the website as we are
able, so please check back for new items being added to the website, and
immediately put on sale.

Please note that our normal 5-day inspection period does not apply to this
inventory liquidation sale.  All sale merchandise will be sold "as is" and
we will not accept returns.  Additionally, all sales must be by credit
card, money order or cashier's check.  We will not be accepting personal
or business checks for this sale.  This change is temporary, and is only
going to apply to this liquidation sale.


African Tourmaline

I have some Afrcian Tourmaline Rough for sale.  Assorted bi-color pieces
red-white, green-white, green-blue, pink-blue, and pink-blue pieces that
will cut matched pairs and suites.  There are pieces 1-15 carats so call
and tell me what you are looking for.  I also have large pieces of red
and pink Tourmaline from Africa as well as orange so please email with
your request.  I also have three small Diamond Crystals for sale gem
grade.  Tyler Allen t.allen@mindspring.com


We recently received a 100+kg parcel of the Serbian Green Opal. This is a
new material coming out of southern Serbia near the border of Macedonia. It
is an awesome material for cabbing as we well as excellent material for

We are putting some individual pieces on our website at:


Information about Serbian Green Opal can be found on our website at:


A example picture of the bulk rough can be seen on the information page
(above link).

But, we are offering bulk prices on 'A' grade material as follows:

< 500 gram        $.75 per gram
500 gram - 1kg    $.50 per gram
1kg - 5kg         $275  per kg
5kg - $25kg       $200  per kg
25kg+             $175   per kg

The minimum order on the bulk pricing is 100 grams.
Pieces range from 3/4" to 6".


Unconventional Lapidarist
James Carpenter
Phone: 940.727.1536
Email: info@unconventionallapidarist.com
Web:   http://www.unconventionallapidarist.com


Incredible CZ rough available in all colors of the rainbow.  Most available
at 6 cents per ct.  Pic's available at www.pebbledesignbymolly.com   Click on
the CZ button from the home page.  We accept paypal, checks, MO, Visa, MC. 
$25 order minimum.

Mike Scanlan
Pebble Designs
PO Box 1014
Hixson TN  37343


Killer Fire Agate, from new Discovery , Deer Creek, Slaughter Mt.
quality at reasonable price. Write Azinterco@aol,com   for pictures and
prices. Or kenaii@earthlink.net


Get a FREE copy of the 2003 Faceter's Engagement Calendar
with a $100+ rough purchase at http://www.qualitygemrough.com
(see website for details).

We have recently added some new material, including a new African
find of green/yellow diopside (and we are the only people we know
who have it).  Our stock includes things like alexandrite, amethyst,
aquamarine, chrysoberyl, citrine, emerald, garnets (many varieties)
kornerupine, sapphire, spinel, tourmaline, zircon and more.

At http://www.qualitygemrough.com you get more value for your
money and we show our appreciation for your business with superior
customer service.  You always have a money back guarantee with
the 5-day inspection period, and the convenience of using your
Visa or Mastercard.


Rough to Cut
If you're looking for quality facet rough please check out Rough to Cut,
http://www.roughtocut.com. We offer a wide range of quality facet rough
from Aquamarine to Zircon. Large selections in stock currently of Beryl,
Garnets & Tourmalines. Please check us out & when you do, why not give a
try to our contest, you could win a 5ct + piece of Spessartite garnet
facet rough.

Rough to Cut


Contact b-daw@pacbell.net



Rock Peddler
Complete online discount catalog for cabbing and faceting machines, wheels,
laps, polishes, diamond saws, diamond blades, and general lapidary supplies
at http://www.rockpeddler.com.


Gewelers Gems
e-mail: sales@jewelersgems.com
Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6"  you can charge both sides with
diamond. Other laps too !! http://www.jewelersgems.com

NOW ONLINE!  RRGaetan Gem Rough - Featuring excellent, facet-grade,
Colombian Emerald rough! PLUS, Chrome Tourmaline, Achroite Tourmaline,
Golden Chrome Tourmaline, Aquamarine, Spess, Mint and Malaya Garnets,
and more! For photos and more information, visit us at rrgaetan.com .



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