Issue No. 114 - Wednesday April 23, 2003
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works of
Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
Index to Today's Digest

01  NEW: Crystal Cleaning and Polishing
02  NEW: Zircon Cutter needed in Sydney
03  NEW: Off the Dop - Zircon, Citrine, Chrysoberyl
04  NEW: after server meltdown parts of my web site are flaky but design pages are fine
05  NEW: Gems by Design Website


Subject: Crystal Cleaning and Polishing
From: RBlochnone@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:19:15 EDT
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com

Could you please tell me where in South Florida I can have a large piece of

cleaned and polished.

                                 Thank you,

                                  Elaine Bloch


Subject: Help!!
From: "karen knight" <karenknight52@yahoo.com.au>
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:36:30 +1000

I travelled around Australia for 11 months and whilst at a place called
Gem Tree, not far from Alice Springs, dug up some Zircons which, when
polished look like pink diamonds.  They are probably of no value but are
of sentimental value to me as I dug these up from out of the ground in
40 degree heat, so naturally would like to do something with them.
I need to find a lapadirist in Sydney who can cut and polish these for
me and then make them into a nice ring.
Can you help me.
Would appreciate any help in this regard.
Karen Knight


Subject: Off the Dop - Zircon, Citrine, Chrysoberyl
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:53:28 -0400
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Kenda Wright <kendaw@worldnet.att.net>

Just wanted to show a few stone I just finished and posted on my webpage
(on the "photo" tab).
<http://GemCutting.home.att.net>   or

#151 was a 3 carat piece of Blue Zircon purchased from ThaiGem. It
finished 6mm trillion, 0.85 carat, EasyTri cut. Was lucky to get it
finished as it shifted quite a bit during polish with 100K diamond on
ceramic attached with brown wax and epoxy.  I call 100K polish fine
scratching.   Maybe 200K would be very fine scratching, usually can't
see that either gives great results.

#152 was a 24 carat piece of Citrine from purchased from the Cullinan
mine in Brazil.  It finished 12x18mm oval, 9.05 carat, modified KwikOval
cut.  I cut it down quite a bit to get around some cracks. And, modifed
the pavilion to a keel instead of a point to save some material for the
crown.  Then I had to cut the crown down to get most of another crack
out but, left a little there.  The photo pickes up lots of surrounding
colors and light so, I'll take another under the light dome and post
later.  The interesting thing about this stone is that when viewed at
the right angles under the light you can notice sort of a fired glass
look.  So I guess that's from overheating the amethyst to turn it to
citrine.  The color is also distinctly zoned which shows from the side
but, not from the top.

# 153 was a ~4 carat piece of Chrysoberyl purchased at the Cincinnati OH
gem & mineral show last year.  It finished a 4x5mm rectangle, 0.67
carat, GramPrince cut.  It has some wispy clouds making it mutch fuzzier
than most Chrysoberyl.  It's sor of a yellow green color which will look
good set between a pair of colorless stones.

John in Lexington KY


Subject: after server meltdown parts of my web site are flaky but design
pages are fine
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:32:05 -0400
To: Lapidary arts and faceters digest <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

I am posting this to all known faceting lists so you know the site status.

I think my deisgn page


and Gustavo castelblanco's


are fine after a server meltdown. If you find something wrong
please send an email to dclayton@speakeasy.org

I have not had good luck with the main site at


You may want to go directly to the design pages until I get
the database problems fixed. I will probaly reinstall most of
the site this weekend but I don't have time to fix it now. A
forum and photo album are just not worth the time right now
to make them work properly.

I thank Keith Wyman for his kind words about the Lighting
Hope V design he cut in dark garnet. Gustavo has some
hex cushions on his design page that seem to work well
in dark garnet. We have not cut most of them yet but we
would like to hear your experiences if you cut one. I have a
heart, a pear and some ovals for darker garnet I will release

Sorry about any inconvenience but the main page is mostly
cosmetic fluff anyway the real designs are on the separate
design pages. I do not know the fate of Bob's Rockshop but
if it doesn't come back soon we may have to make an index
to online designs.

Dan Clayton


Subject: Gems by Design Website
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:30:40 -0700
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Len Britton" <elceb@olympus.net>

Has anybody tried Gems By Design. They were mentioned with designs for
opal. I have tried twice and can not get on their site. They do not
respond to email questions or help you to get registered.

Any help by members would be appreciated.
Len Britton









PERSONALS: (General Lapidary and Faceting)




Lurking is fine, but participation is better for learning !
Post something from your experiences in gemcutting today!


He is a very smart dog

I went to the cinema the other day and in the front
row was an old man and with him was his dog. It
was a sad funny kind of film, you know the type. In
the sad part, the dog cried his eyes out, and in the
funny part, the dog laughed its head off. This happened
all the way through the film. After the film had ended,
I decided to go and speak to the man.

"That's the most amazing thing I've seen," I said.
"That dog really seemed to enjoy the film."

The man turned to me and said, "Yeah, it is.
He hated the book."



The journey is the reward

--- Author Unknown ---




We at L&M gems are making some changes to our business.  As part of these
changes, we will be closing out most of the material we have on our
website at huge savings. If you want anything, now is the time to get it
while it's on sale because a lot of what doesn't sell at sale prices will
be removed.

This sale includes a minimum of 40% off most items.  Some items more - and
sometimes much more, like 75% off some items  How about 50% off on
amethyst, 50% off most rhodolite garnets, 60% off green/yellow diopside,
50% off kornerupine, 60% off a zircon parcel, 55% off that huge
actinolite, 55% off all alexandrite, 55% off all bulk malaya color garnet,
60% off mixed yellow scapolite.  The few exceptions that are that less
than 40% are 25% off red spinel and all sapphire rough, and 20% off all
select tourmaline.  We will be adding some items to the website as we are
able, so please check back for new items being added to the website, and
immediately put on sale.

Please note that our normal 5-day inspection period does not apply to this
inventory liquidation sale.  All sale merchandise will be sold "as is" and
we will not accept returns.  Additionally, all sales must be by credit
card, money order or cashier's check.  We will not be accepting personal
or business checks for this sale.  This change is temporary, and is only
going to apply to this liquidation sale.


African Tourmaline

I have some Afrcian Tourmaline Rough for sale.  Assorted bi-color pieces
red-white, green-white, green-blue, pink-blue, and pink-blue pieces that
will cut matched pairs and suites.  There are pieces 1-15 carats so call
and tell me what you are looking for.  I also have large pieces of red
and pink Tourmaline from Africa as well as orange so please email with
your request.  I also have three small Diamond Crystals for sale gem
grade.  Tyler Allen t.allen@mindspring.com


We recently received a 100+kg parcel of the Serbian Green Opal. This is a
new material coming out of southern Serbia near the border of Macedonia. It
is an awesome material for cabbing as we well as excellent material for

We are putting some individual pieces on our website at:


Information about Serbian Green Opal can be found on our website at:


A example picture of the bulk rough can be seen on the information page
(above link).

But, we are offering bulk prices on 'A' grade material as follows:

< 500 gram        $.75 per gram
500 gram - 1kg    $.50 per gram
1kg - 5kg         $275  per kg
5kg - $25kg       $200  per kg
25kg+             $175   per kg

The minimum order on the bulk pricing is 100 grams.
Pieces range from 3/4" to 6".


Unconventional Lapidarist
James Carpenter
Phone: 940.727.1536
Email: info@unconventionallapidarist.com
Web:   http://www.unconventionallapidarist.com


Incredible CZ rough available in all colors of the rainbow.  Most available
at 6 cents per ct.  Pic's available at www.pebbledesignbymolly.com   Click on
the CZ button from the home page.  We accept paypal, checks, MO, Visa, MC. 
$25 order minimum.

Mike Scanlan
Pebble Designs
PO Box 1014
Hixson TN  37343


Killer Fire Agate, from new Discovery , Deer Creek, Slaughter Mt.
quality at reasonable price. Write Azinterco@aol,com   for pictures and
prices. Or kenaii@earthlink.net


Get a FREE copy of the 2003 Faceter's Engagement Calendar
with a $100+ rough purchase at http://www.qualitygemrough.com
(see website for details).

We have recently added some new material, including a new African
find of green/yellow diopside (and we are the only people we know
who have it).  Our stock includes things like alexandrite, amethyst,
aquamarine, chrysoberyl, citrine, emerald, garnets (many varieties)
kornerupine, sapphire, spinel, tourmaline, zircon and more.

At http://www.qualitygemrough.com you get more value for your
money and we show our appreciation for your business with superior
customer service.  You always have a money back guarantee with
the 5-day inspection period, and the convenience of using your
Visa or Mastercard.


Rough to Cut
If you're looking for quality facet rough please check out Rough to Cut,
http://www.roughtocut.com. We offer a wide range of quality facet rough
from Aquamarine to Zircon. Large selections in stock currently of Beryl,
Garnets & Tourmalines. Please check us out & when you do, why not give a
try to our contest, you could win a 5ct + piece of Spessartite garnet
facet rough.

Rough to Cut


Contact b-daw@pacbell.net



Rock Peddler
Complete online discount catalog for cabbing and faceting machines, wheels,
laps, polishes, diamond saws, diamond blades, and general lapidary supplies
at http://www.rockpeddler.com.


Gewelers Gems
e-mail: sales@jewelersgems.com
Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6"  you can charge both sides with
diamond. Other laps too !! http://www.jewelersgems.com

NOW ONLINE!  RRGaetan Gem Rough - Featuring excellent, facet-grade,
Colombian Emerald rough! PLUS, Chrome Tourmaline, Achroite Tourmaline,
Golden Chrome Tourmaline, Aquamarine, Spess, Mint and Malaya Garnets,
and more! For photos and more information, visit us at rrgaetan.com .



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