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LAPIDARY ARTS AND FACETERS DIGEST

a digest committed to carrying on the fine
works started by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Issue No. 3 - Wednesday November 6, 2002
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Click a link below to post to the list:
for faceting questions faceters@caprock-spur.com
for other lapidary questions lapidary@caprock-spur.com
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http://www.facetersdigest.org/rules.htm
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Web Site http://www.facetersdigest.org
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Published Monday thru Friday, except holidays
from deep in the heart of rural Texas
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The Lapidary Arts Digest is moderated by:
Thurmond Moore III & Fred Ward (Gemology)
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From the Moderator:

There is a new permanent section in this digest
The Business Section. Any post that conforms
to posting rules and guidelines but is of a business
nature will be posted there. It is simply an area for
list business to be carried out in our forum without
interupting the flow of information in the Lapidary
and Faceting areas.
More topical areas will be added as required.

The web site is again being reworked so please bear with
me until it is completed. (this weekend I hope)

Thurmond
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Index to Today's Digest

Lapidary Messages:
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01 Re: Louisiana Opal
02 Re: Saw Blades
03 Bio
04 Re Saw Lubricants

Faceting Messages:
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05 topaz "heat treated"
06 re-cutting
07 Sapphire enhancement
08 AD Tin Lap
09 6" vs. 8" laps.

Business Section:
2 messages
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LAPIDARY DISCUSSION:


Message:01

Subject: louisiana Opal
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:33:54 -0500
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "RonSteck" <ronsteck@intrepid.net>

re- Criss Morgans interesting post on Louisians Opal, I have read
various articles on it in the magazines. My question is since it is a
soft opal imbedded in a harder sand, how do you polish it with the
softer part always wearing down faster than the harder base materiel. In
the same area, ruby in zoeisite would present a similar problem?
RonSteck

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Message:02

Subject: Re: Saw Blades
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:17:44 -0700
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

Tom & All,
I have tested tile sintered saw blades versus lapidary sintered saw
blades. I find the tile saw blades to last longer than the lapidary saw
blades and cost less than 1/3 the cost of lapidary blades. My tests
consisted of slabbing agate nodules. I have many 5 gallon pails of 1"
to 3" nodules to slab. I have tested both types of blades using water.
After about 10 pails of agates I found this to be the results. With a
tile saw blade I get about 8 hours of constant cutting to a blade. With
a lapidary blade I averaged 6 hours. I also have never had a tile saw
blade come apart. Of my last two lapidary sintered saw blades both came
apart at less than half the blade use. When lapidary blades did hold
together they only lasted 6 hours on average. I cut hard and fast as
time is money. I will take a $10.78 tile saw blade that lasts 8 hours
over a $60.00 lapidary blade that lasts 6 hours every time.

Gerry Galarneau
gggemswcr@cox.net
www.galarneausgems.com

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Message:03

Subject: Fresh Start
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:29:10 -0500
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "coralnut" <dcdietz@attbi.com>

Thurmond,

Congratulations on your new endeavor. I have received the IFA digest
for some time now but rarely had time to read it...and didn't really
find that much of interest in it. Your new digest, combining cabbing
and faceting will, I believe be more worthwhile. I mostly cab but have
been known to facet quite a bit too. Currently, I teach cabbing and
faceting at the Florida Gold Coast Gem and Mineral Society in Dania
Beach FL and cabbing and metal fabrication (silversmithing mostly) at
the Boca Raton Museum of Art School in Boca Raton, FL. I am active on
the Orchid list and previously contributed to Hale Sweeny's list.

I hope to become active on your new list as much as time will allow.
Thanks again for keeping the art of the lapidary front and center.
Cheers, Don
dcdietz@attbi.com

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Message:04

Subject: Re Saw Lubricants
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:26:41 -0700
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

All,
I have also been trying to find a new lubricant for my 18 inch saw
that is not petroleum based. Does anyone on the list use a 18" or
bigger slab saw with nonpetroleum based lubricants? Like the lubricant
from Johnson Bros. If you do, would you share with me some info. Like
how long does the lubricant last in the saw? Is the saw blade wear time
affected? How much rock do you cut before the lubricant becomes
unusable?
In my 18" saw I cut rocks 8-10 hours a day, six days a week. I run 6
gallons of Almag for lubricant. I run my saw blade speed at about
1200rpms with a feed rate of 1" every 4-5 minutes. About every 5 weeks
we have to clean the saw. In 2 years of cutting I have almost wore out
1 saw blade. Most of my sawing is agates and jaspers. How do the
others lubricants compare to this?

Gerry Galarneau
gggemswcr@cox.net
www.galarneausgems.com

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FACETING DISCUSSION:

Message:05

Subject: topaz "heat treated"
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:04:04 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "Michael & Linda Lauer"<lakeout@earthlink.net>

Hi all,
In the old list there was some questions on heat-treating topaz. I used my
Microwave and a bowl of flower. I put a cut topaz oval in the middle of a
pottery bowl of flower and heated for 1 1/2 minuets on Hi power. The stone
turned golden yellow.
It did crack the bowl, probably because I opened the door to soon. Should have
let it cool down by itself for a couple of hours.

Mike


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Message:06

Subject: re-cutting
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:31:59 -0600
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Rockey Starnes" <RockeyStar@cox-internet.com>

Hi all,
I can't believe no one posted to my question about re-cutting stones. I
have a nice little collection of windowed stones that I would like to
re-cut, at least I think I do. How would be the best way to proceed?
Also, where do you get this facet finder everyone is talking about
lately. Half my stuff comes off the dop before I get finished, I could
sure use one, maybe two. LOL. Thanks for helping the preacher out.
-Rockey

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Hey Sean if you are out there how about posting some recutting tips for
windowed stones.

Thurmond

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Message:07

Subject: Sapphire enhancement
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:16:05 EST
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: MARKBA2575@aol.com

Hi all,

I am looking for a trustworthy lapidary that I can use to enhance a small
parcel Montana Sapphire that I just recently purchased. Any information would
be greatly appreciated.

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Message:08

Subject: lap.etc.
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:43:10 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Rudy Klein.B.Sc." <ikeytess@sympatico.ca>

Hello,
Please go to Ebay and under "sellers" enter "henrick" to see my
items for sale.I thought someone might be interested in the pure tin lap
as described.
regards,
Rudy Klein.B.Sc..

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Message:09

Subject: 6" vs. 8" laps.
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:51:16 -0500
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <webmaster@gearloose.com>

At 02:11 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>We have been Facetron dealers for 9 years and can assure you the
>Facetron only comes one way and that is for 8" laps. There is no such
>thing as an adapter for the Facetron for different size laps. The writer
>must be thinking of another machine. However, there is nothing to
>prevent you from using 6" laps on this faceting machine.

Anyone with a choice should consider that an 8" lap has nearly twice the
polishing/cutting area of a 6" one.
50 square inches for the 8", vs. 28.26 for the 6", and it is actually a
greater ratio than that because the unused hub center is the same size in
both laps.
Both laps take the same number of manufacturing and machining operations to
make, and since I see a 50:1 ratio in sales of the 8" vs, the 6", the 8"
represents a much better value for the money, and has a proportionately
longer service life.

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RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~

Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
ILA Lapidary Arts Digest Online http://facetersdigest.org/toady.htm


RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~

Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com

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RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~

Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org

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FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: tgibbs@compuserve.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
http://www.attawaygems.com/NMFG
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
wrheitland@shaw.ca

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )

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TODAY'S FUNNY ~

Top 20 Engineers' Terminology's

1. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES ARE BEING TRIED
- We are still peeing in the wind.

2. EXTENSIVE REPORT IS BEING PREPARED ON A FRESH APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM
- We just hired three kids fresh out of college.

3. CLOSE PROJECT COORDINATION
- We know who to blame.

4. MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH
- It works OK, but looks very hi-tech.

5. CUSTOMER SATISFACTION IS DELIVERED ASSURED
- We are so far behind schedule the customer is happy to get it
delivered.

6. PRELIMINARY OPERATIONAL TESTS WERE INCONCLUSIVE
- The darn thing blew up when we threw the switch.

7. TEST RESULTS WERE EXTREMELY GRATIFYING
- We are so surprised that the stupid thing works.

8. THE ENTIRE CONCEPT WILL HAVE TO BE ABANDONED
- The only person who understood the thing quit.

9. IT IS IN THE PROCESS
- It is so wrapped up in red tape that the situation is about hopeless.

10. WE WILL LOOK INTO IT
- Forget it! We have enough problems for now.

11. PLEASE NOTE AND INITIAL
- Let's spread the responsibility for the screw up.

12. GIVE US THE BENEFIT OF YOUR THINKING
- We'll listen to what you have to say as long as it doesn't interfere
with what we've already done.

13. GIVE US YOUR INTERPRETATION
- I can't wait to hear this bull!

14. SEE ME or LET'S DISCUSS
- Come into my office, I'm lonely.

15. ALL NEW
- Parts not interchangeable with the previous design.

16. RUGGED
- Too damn heavy to lift!

17. LIGHTWEIGHT
- Lighter than RUGGED.

18. YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT
- One finally worked.

19. ENERGY SAVING
- Achieved when the power switch is off.

20. LOW MAINTENANCE
- Impossible to fix if broken.

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REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:

" As you journey through life chose your destinations well,
but do not hurry there for you will arrive soon enough. Wander
the back roads and forgotten paths keeping your destination
in your heart like the fixed point of a compass. Seek out new
voices, strange sights and ideas foreign to your own - such
things are riches for the soul. And if upon arrival you find that
your destination is not exactly as you had dreamed, do not be
disappointed. Think of all you would have missed, but for the
journey there, and know that the true worth of your travels lies
in not where you come to be at journey's end but in who you
come to be along the way."

--- Author Unknown ---

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BUSINESS SECTION:

Message: 1

Subject: advertisements
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:37:31 -0500
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Doug Dover" <ddover@carolina.rr.com>

I think we need to place a time limit on ads running in the digest. I have
contacted the gentleman running the ad for the Xristaltek-87 and it is in
fact no longer available. Several of the ads have been running for a long
time and are questionable as to continued availability. I fell that it would
be fair to run ads for three weeks and then discard them. If the seller
still wants them to run longer they can simply resubmit the ad for another
three weeks. I agree that this is an important part of the group and I have
purchased from ads on the digest, so I do want them to continue. Thurmond
would it be possible to place an insertion date in the body of the ad and
use that to regulate the time they run? Does anyone else have any input of
this feature? I am not necessarily referring to the dealer information
section, just what I consider the classified ads.

Doug Dover
Belmont, NC

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Hi Doug, Welcome to the business section. I have date coded most the ads now.
P means permanent. Any other ad will run for the current month only. If the ad is
posted the first day of the month it would run a month. If posted on the last day
of the month it will run for 1 day only.

Thurmond
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Message: 2

Subject: Lapidary Politics (Business)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:36 -0700
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

All,
As I read the guidelines for this list it suggests that the topics of
lapidary politics (Business) are not allowed. My opinion is that you
cannot separate politics of business lapidary and hobby lapidary. What
can be done is enter into thoughtful and gainful discussions. Subjects
such as rough buying, business at shows, representation as a group,
interaction with jewelers, are subjects that need to be discussed.
Paul Alstead was correct in taking on some of these subjects. He is
incorrect assuming that he is the leader and spokes person for the
lapidary community and using foul language in communications. What is
needed is polite discussion and organization. To be that spokesperson
he must be the leader of an organization. Lists are not an organization.
This group may not want to enter into organization. But, discussion
of the issues will benefit all on the list as everyone at one time or
another will interact with one of these issues. If the discussion can be
kept polite and thoughtful all will benefit. Honest disagreements
exist. As do dishonest disagreements. Politeness and discourse are
what is needed. Not slighting, flaming, and cursing.

Gerry Galarneau
gggemswcr@cox.net
www.galarneausgems.com

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Hi Gerry and All, I have to agree with you and as a result
this section has been created.

Thurmond
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CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS:


Subject: AD
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

AVAILABLE FOR SALE
Contact b-daw@pacbell.net

ZIRCONS
Honey, red & brown zircons, 10g parcels @$20/parcel

GARNETS
Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included

TOURMALINES
Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs

SAPPHIRES
Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly
included, up to 1g.

BERYL
Blue Beryl (Aquamarine) $6/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals
Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
zoned green
Cabbing Grade Aquamarine $3/g

10312002
********

Must sell the following rough - no reasonable offer refused -

Rose Malaya Garnet - deep red, eye clean african material - 1 kg available -
$2.00/gram for quantities of 500 grams or more

Red Zircon - eye clean african material - 300g available - $2.00/gram if you
take the entire 300 grams

Spessartite Orange Garnet - slightly to moderately included African
material - Ranges from 1.5 - 3 cts size - $7.50 per gram if you take the
entire 300 grams

I have put pictures of the rough and stones cut from it on the web -
check it out at: http://www.wintershill.com/rough

You can email me (Richard) for more info or ?'s at: wntrhill@somtel.com

*******
Rock Peddler
Complete online discount catalog for cabbing and faceting machines, wheels,
laps, polishes, diamond saws, diamond blades, and general lapidary supplies
at http://www.rockpeddler.com.

09272002P
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Gewelers Gems
e-mail: sales@jewelersgems.com
Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6" you can charge both sides with
diamond. http://www.jewelersgems.com/faceting_laps.htm

03222002P
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RRGaetan GEM BROKERS < "Quality gem rough for discriminating gem-cutters."
We serve hand-select (and bulk/parcels, too!), affordable, quality gem rough
in a variety of materials. Our most recent arrivals: Aug. 2 - Aquamarine,
Spessartite and Tourmaline. For details and a colorful, interactive e-flyer
(PDF), email rrgaetan@san.rr.com and ask for "The Rough List."

00000000P
*****

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COMPETITIONS:

For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It is called
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.' Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten. The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note: The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2." If further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon


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SHOWDATES:

~ FLORIDA

Just a reminder that the St. Lucie Rock & Gem Club will be hosting their 25th
annual show at the Ft. Pierce Civic Center (25th St. & Virginia Ave.), on
November 9th & 10th. Saturday 10-6, and Sunday 10 - 5.
I'll be demonstrating both days.
Norm Holbert
Port St. Lucie, FL

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Canaveral Mineral & Gem Society is again presenting
our yearly gem show, the Parade of Gems, November 23rd and 24th at the
Melbourne auditorium, 625 E Hibiscus Blvd in Melbourne, FL, from 10AM to
6PM. Admission is $3, with kids under 12 admitted free.

*****

Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's annual show will be held on Dec. 14 and 15 at
the Volusia County Fairgrounds, located on state route 44 in Deland, Florida.
Fairgrounds are 1 mile east of interstate route 4 at exit 118. We will have at
least one showcase of faceted gems done by our members. Thank you, John Withey


*****

~ CALIFORNIA


FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003


You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.

The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630 email: glennklein@yahoo.com

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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:


KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
faceter@bigfoot.com
Larry W. Davis
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ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net
******

INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>
******

S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
*****

MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim
*****

TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan
******

WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
winfielr@inra.nimh.nih.gov
******

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owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com

Fred Ward / Moderator - Gemology
fward@erols.com.

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