a digest committed to carrying on the fine
works started by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
Issue No. 2 - Tuesday November 5, 2002
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The Lapidary Arts Digest is moderated by:
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Faceting post were kind of slow today. Lets get them in for tomorrow.

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Index to Today's Digest

Lapidary Messages:
01 Fresh Start
02 Louisiana Opal
03 Re: Stabilizing Turquoise
04 Lapidilite
05 RE:Sawblades
06 combined list
07 Bowers Museum Exhibit

Faceting Messages:
08 Laps - Facetron
09 speaking of laser pointers....



Subject: "Fresh Start"
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:27:24 -0500
To: Faceter's Digest <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Bob Collins <nichesw@comcast.net>


Congratulations on your "Fresh Start"... The Digest will be a better,
more constructive, calmer, and much more worthwhile forum, under your
new ground rules, without the incessant ranting and raving that we have
been burdened with in the past.

Your earlier effort... creating the "Sand Box"... was a help... (it
should have been named the "Out House")... but your new rules of
"ABSOLUTELY NO FLAMES" and "Respect other list members by restricting
your language and watching your manners." is certainly the best
Let's just have fun.

Regards, Bob


Thanks for the kind words Bob.




Subject: Re: Issue No. 1
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:14:23 -0600
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Criss Morgan" <criss@cox.net>

Hi Thurmond,

I'd like to wish you the best of luck for the new
combined digest.
I too both facet and cut cabs, along with a couple of other areas of
interest in the lapidary field. I believe the idea of a combined list is a
good one that has a very good xhance of succeeding.
I worked most of last week cutting a bunch of Louisiana Opal cabs. I wound
up with a total of 62 cabs of varying sizes, all of them oval in shape. Only
30 of them are displaying a play of color, however I'm hoping the rest of
them will "come to life" as they slowly dry out. It's a common phenomenon of
Louisiana Opal to lose its fire when the stone gets wet. Some of it doesn't
display this characteristic, but most of it does.
When I slabbed this material, it all displayed a lot of play of color, both
in the uncut pieces and in the slabs. However, after I cabbed them many
still don't show any play of color. Yet. It would be a shame to have put
that much woork into cutting those 32 cabs to wind up with plain old
sandstone cabs, not to mention the value lost in them. Louisiana Opal
usually doesn't need orienting in any particular direction due to its being
deposited between the grains of sand in the quartzite sandstone matrix. If
you've never seen any of it, particularly the higher grades, you're in for
a treat when you do. The better grades display a range of colors including
red, orange, violet, purple green, and yellow. Even a bright gold. The most
common displays a bright purple color that most people call "Purple Glow".
It isn't pure precious opal, having been deposited in sandstone, glueing
the grains of sand together, but, although I've never seen any, there are
rumors that pure precious Louisiana Opal has been found. I'd sure love to
see some.
This material is no longer available due to the only know location of it
having been repossessed by the land owner, a large paper company, and from
what I understand the mine sight has been capped by a thick layer of dirt
and the site posted to any trespassing and the paper company has now made it
a rule on all its property that mining or collecting rocks or minerals is
prohibited on all of its properties forever. Even surface collecting. This
has driven up the prices of Louisiana Opal to the point where I decided to
cut some of it that I had been hoarding for years. Now all I have to do is
to find a buyer. I meant to go to the Pascagoula, Mississippi show this past
weekend to feel out the market, but circumstances prevented my going so I'm
planning on going to the Deridder/Leesville, Louisiana show this coming
weekend to do the same.
Maybe I'll have an early Christmas this year. But if I don't, my Mother,
who gets the lions share of the stones I cut, will have one of the best
displays of Louisiana Opal in the country. Either way, I had lots of fun
cutting it, and I'm still having fun just looking at it. As many years as
I've been collecting and cutting this opal, it still takes my breath away.
So, good luck to the new list. I wish you many years of success with it.



Hi Criss, If you have a pic of Louisiana Opal send it to owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com
and I will get it on the web site as soon as the overhaul is completed.




Subject: Stabilizing Turquoise-Vol. 2, Issue No. 12 -Friday, November 1, 2002
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:24:05 -0800 (PST)
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Emory Davis <emorydavis@yahoo.com>

Re: Message:07

Subject: Stabilize Turquoise
From: "Wayne S. Barnett"

Q: I have some turquoise that is very soft. It polishes to a good shine but
the softness limits the use of it for most jewelry. I would like to
stabilize it to make it more durable. I have no experience in this type of
work. Does anyone on the list know how to stabilize soft stones such as
turquoise? I have available to me a vacuum pump and bell jar. I thought
that it could be put in a vacuum with some resin, what type I do not know,
and have the vacuum applied several times to 'pump' the resin into the
material. The material is in slabs about 5/16 in thick. Any suggestions
would be appreciated.

A: Hi Wayne, I have not tried it yet but there is an epoxy mix called
HXTAL that is a remarkable compound that might work well with
"chalky" stones. It is quite pricey though. It is used by musems for
restoration and repair work. It is a water thin compound.


My Question: Will this product also work on opals?

Emory Davis-Vidalia, GA-USA


Hi Emory,

Although I have not tried to stabalize opal with it I suspect it would work as well as opticon.
I know of some folks using HXTAL for triplets. They are well pleased with the results. Since
it is such low viscosity there are no problems with bubbles that sometimes cause triplet producers



Subject: Lapidilite
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:09:44 EST
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com

Hi folks,

Mostly a lurker here, but just signed up for this list. My Wife and I
have been into Lapidary works since early 1990`s We carve stone figurines
in the softer stones, beads, cabs and of course we also have been trying our
hand at faceting, We have been with the IFG list for several years and have
learned a lot from the banter on that list.. Our Motto in simply "Anything in
Stone" We work and live at our home in Wolf Creek Oregon. Our Question is
simply "Does anyone have a line on Gem Grade Lapidilite supposedly coming
from New Mexico...?" I have seen several pounds of this material, but always
when I`m too broke to buy it. I would really love to get 20 or so pounds.

Best regards James & Sally Roberts
The Roberts Clan
Wolf Creek Oregon
WE ARE Speakeasycrafts@aol.com



Subject: RE:Sawblades
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 08:39:03 -0800
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Alpha Supply, Inc" <two@eskimo.com>

Water is a good coolant on saw blades up to 8", above 8" the friction
created turns the water to steam. Oil must have a viscosity in the right
range to lubricate and cool and not hold the cuttings in suspension.
People that worry about using oil should just invest in the proper
respirator and safety equipment. If you purchase a new lapidary saw, all
manufactures require the use of an approved saw oil or the warranty is
void (except the 4 to 6" range). The tile and concrete saws pump water
under pressure onto the blade to cool, the binding agent that holds the
diamond is different than lapidary and wears away exposing fresh diamond
at a faster rate.
This is just my 2 cents worth.



Subject: Re: Issue No. 1
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:04:40 -0700
To: "Lapidary Arts & Faceter's Digest" <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: John McLaughlin <jemstone@amug.org>

Hi Thurmond,

Your combined list is a great idea and incredibly well timed. I will be
beginning faceting lessons (as soon as I shake a cold) with Dick
McPheron, a highly experienced Phoenix faceter, and I keep on slabbing,
grinding and polishing cabs and making jewelry.

Your efforts embody all of the finest attributes of Hale Sweeny, and
that's about the highest complement I can think of.

John McLaughlin
Glendale, Arizona


Thanks John, I had been intending on a combined list for a while. Events precipitated
its early arrival.



Subject: Bowers Museum Exhibit
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:57:17 -0800 (PST)
To: IFA Faceters Digest <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: Glenn Klein <glennklein@yahoo.com>

Hi All:

If any of you will be in the Southern California area
between now and January 5, 2003, try to get to the Bowers
Museum display in Santa Ana...just eight miles or so
southeast of Disneyland, near highway I-5.

I took in the exhibit last week, and I can assure you that
it is well worth looking at. The quality and value of the
pieces was outstanding. This includes individual stones
and carved sculptured pieces of gem material.

You can get an excellent review of the display by looking
at the report that Bob Jones did in the November 2002 issue
of Rock and Gem magazine...starting on page 40.

Or, you can check the Bowers Museum web site


click on Calendar of Events, then on Exhibitions Current,
then it is listed as Gems: The Art and Nature of Precious

and get more information about the Museum there.

Glenn Klein
Faceters Symposium 2003 Chairman



Subject: Laps - Facetron
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:33:09 -0500
To: "IFA digest" <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Jeanne Ridolfi" <jeanne44@attbi.com>

Facetron comes with two sizes of laps. If you get a 6" you can get an
adapter for 8".

Would like to correct a misunderstanding. The above was posted in issue
#1. We have been Facetron dealers for 9 years and can assure you the
Facetron only comes one way and that is for 8" laps. There is no such
thing as an adapter for the Facetron for different size laps. The writer
must be thinking of another machine. However, there is nothing to
prevent you from using 6" laps on this faceting machine.
Jeanne Ridolfi - Rock Peddler



Subject: speaking of laser pointers....
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 18:22:32 -0600
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Downey <alckytxn@swbell.net>

Howdy Folks,
I wonder if any one is familiar with the alignment procedure outlined
(IIRC) in the TFG newsletter maybe 4 or more years ago. Perhaps it was
created by Robert S. as part of his retroreflector desidn series.
Anyway, it invovles cutting a retrorflector on your machine and using a
laser pointer to determine how far and in which direction the protractor
is off. I don't seem to be able to find my copy but I did try it and my
machine was off about 4 tenths degree. It was kinda tricky without a
helper but it works.
1 Lucky Texan


If anyone has a copy of this I would like to see it as well.



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ILA Lapidary Arts Digest Online http://facetersdigest.org/ILA/LADtoday/


Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com



Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org


FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: tgibbs@compuserve.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )



Steven Wright

If you're not familiar with the work of Steven Wright, he's the guy
who once said "I woke up one morning and all of my stuff had been
and replaced by exact duplicates."

Here are some more of his gems:

I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.

Borrow money from pessimists - they don't expect it back.

Half the people you know are below average.

99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good.

A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.

If you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain.

All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my hand.

The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
(Think about it some more.)

I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met.

OK, so what's the speed of dark?

How do you tell when you're out of invisible ink?

If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked

Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.

When everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.

Hard work pays off in the future, laziness pays off now.

I intend to live forever - so far, so good.

If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

What happens if you get scared half to death twice?

My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn

Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?

If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

The hardness of the butter is proportional to the softness of the bread.

To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is

The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.

The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.

The colder the x-ray table, the more of your body is required to be on it.

Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have film.



" Take things slow.
Only at a slow pace,
Are we able to see
All the wonders that life lays at our feet."

--- Author Unknown ---



Complete online discount catalog for cabbing and faceting machines, wheels,
laps, polishes, diamond saws, diamond blades, and general lapidary supplies
at http://www.rockpeddler.com.


Subject: For Sale
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:54:52 -0700
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: crclink@juno.com

Large Highland Park lapidary unit. Two 8" grinding wheels, trim saw
which measures 9" across, three 8 inch sanding wheels [2 wheels were
purchased extra], and a polishing wheel. The unit is mounted on a metal
base which measures 33 1/2 inches long and uses a one hp motor mounted
behind the trim saw. Price includes the honing tool, some polishing
compounds, and an assortment of slabs for making jewelry. Also included
is LOTS of 220 grit emery cloth. This is an older but not a heavily used
unit. It weighs considerable and is smooth running. The grinding wheels
are in good shape as I had a light touch and dressed them when needed .
$800 takes all.

I'm planning to move from Salem, OR to South Carolina where my kids are
so I have to downsize.

Ruth Clinkingbeard


Gewelers Gems
e-mail: sales@jewelersgems.com

Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6" you can charge both sides with
diamond. http://www.jewelersgems.com/faceting_laps.htm

I have a very nicely rebuilt Lee facetor that i cannot use any more.
I made a few itarsia pieces before parkinson hit me badly. Two new
diamond laps go with it. It is priced well for its condition located in
ST Louis MO can go UPS anywhere USA
reply to: LKusher@aol.com


Subject: AD
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

Contact b-daw@pacbell.net

Honey, red & brown zircons, 10g parcels @$20/parcel

Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included

Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs

Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly
included, up to 1g.

Blue Beryl (Aquamarine) $6/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals
Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
zoned green
Cabbing Grade Aquamarine $3/g


Must sell the following rough - no reasonable offer refused -

Rose Malaya Garnet - deep red, eye clean african material - 1 kg available -
$2.00/gram for quantities of 500 grams or more

Red Zircon - eye clean african material - 300g available - $2.00/gram if you
take the entire 300 grams

Spessartite Orange Garnet - slightly to moderately included African
material - Ranges from 1.5 - 3 cts size - $7.50 per gram if you take the
entire 300 grams

I have put pictures of the rough and stones cut from it on the web -
check it out at: http://www.wintershill.com/rough

You can email me (Richard) for more info or ?'s at: wntrhill@somtel.com


RRGaetan GEM BROKERS < "Quality gem rough for discriminating gem-cutters."
We serve hand-select (and bulk/parcels, too!), affordable, quality gem rough
in a variety of materials. Our most recent arrivals: Aug. 2 - Aquamarine,
Spessartite and Tourmaline. For details and a colorful, interactive e-flyer
(PDF), email rrgaetan@san.rr.com and ask for "The Rough List."


Hello all, I still have a Xristal-Tek87 for sale. I am reducing the price
because I really have to sell this fine machine. I have cut maybe 15 stones
on it. It is basically brand new and in perfect condition. It has the 8"
adapter ring on it and the dial indicator. It is a very sturdy rugged
machine. I am reducing the price to $900 and will still consider all

Thank you,
David Creviston
Atlanta, Georgia


I am now accepting cutting orders for high quality American Facetting
specializing in Barions and Portuguese Cuts as well as repairs. I am
32 have been cutting for 15 years and have been recently laid off from
my company where I was a medical software salesman. So now it's back to
gemcutting and jewelry. I also offer extremely reliable, high quality
overseas cutting to your diagrams and specs with a 4-6 week turn around.
Diamond cutting and repair available two, including recutting of
chipped melee. Please contact Tyler Allen Atlanta GA
770-393-2547 t.allen@mindspring.com



For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It is called
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.' Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten. The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note: The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2." If further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon




Just a reminder that the St. Lucie Rock & Gem Club will be hosting their 25th
annual show at the Ft. Pierce Civic Center (25th St. & Virginia Ave.), on
November 9th & 10th. Saturday 10-6, and Sunday 10 - 5.
I'll be demonstrating both days.
Norm Holbert
Port St. Lucie, FL


Canaveral Mineral & Gem Society is again presenting
our yearly gem show, the Parade of Gems, November 23rd and 24th at the
Melbourne auditorium, 625 E Hibiscus Blvd in Melbourne, FL, from 10AM to
6PM. Admission is $3, with kids under 12 admitted free.


Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's annual show will be held on Dec. 14 and 15 at
the Volusia County Fairgrounds, located on state route 44 in Deland, Florida.
Fairgrounds are 1 mile east of interstate route 4 at exit 118. We will have at
least one showcase of faceted gems done by our members. Thank you, John Withey



Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003

You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.

The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630 email: glennklein@yahoo.com



KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis

ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net

INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>

S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)

MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim

TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan

WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield

Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!


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Fred Ward / Moderator - Gemology

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The rules for the list are simple but firm:

1. Stay on topic. -- only lapidary related topics. I know it may be hard sometimes to
know whether your topic has strayed too far from the object of the list, but try to stay
as close to the list objectives as possible.

2. ABSOLUTELY NO FLAMES - Flaming or overly argumentative or abusive material is
inappropriate, and will not be posted or may be cause for the list owner to restrict or
drop the subscriptions of those who abuse the list.

3. Respect other list members by restricting your language and watching your manners.
There could be youngsters on the list and we must respect others' right not to hear
profanity. Likewise, we will follow common Netiquette rules.

4. The software only handles ASCII text. (at this time) DO NOT sent attachments, photos,
HTML formatted posts, or graphic files, or any material needing translating.

To change your e-mail address, follow the link below:


Once there enter your old e-mail address and click unsubscribe then submit
then enter your new e-mail address and select digest and hit the submit button.

Or you may send me a note at owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com and include your name, and
your OLD and your NEW e-mail addresses in the body of the message, and I will change it manually.

When the server receives a message with any of several words in the body of the message,
it treats the message as a command message. For this reason, never use one of these
words: SUBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCRIBE, HELP, DIR, or GET in the subject of a message intended for
publication in the Digest. All request should be sent to the address lapidary-request@caprock-spur.com .

Request to all other addresses will generate an error message but will be handled manually
although usually handling will be delayed.

Posting Guidelines:

When originating a new topic (or thread), please put 'NEW:' on the subject line of your
message, followed by the subject. Try to keep the subject short but relevant to the topic of the post.

If you are responding to a prior message, please put 'RE:' as the first word on the
subject line, followed by the subject, written exactly as it was in the message referred to.

Use 'BIO:' and your name if you are writing about yourself.

Use FS (for sale) or WTB (want to buy) if your post is about items for sale of items

When sending in an item for the Digest, DO NOT USE THE REPLY KEY on your mail client, but
start a new letter. To include a copy of just one original letter or a relevant part of a letter in a reply, use
cut-and-paste to do this, and make sure to address your response to: lapidary@caprock-spur.com .

Only members may have messages published on the list. Messages from all others are
automatically excluded. Also, you MUST send all messages from the same address used when
you subscribed, or the message will be automatically rejected.

When a submission is send to the Digest, you automatically agree that permission is given
to allow the use of that submission outside the list for non-commercial uses. Anyone
wanting to use it for commercial purposes must get copyright release from the author.

Thus, blanket permission is given to Gem and Mineral Clubs and to Lapidary and Mineral
Federations to reprint items from the Digest and from the Archives (when they are created)
in their Newsletters, given that all authors and the Digest are cited as the source. By subscribing
to the Lapidary Arts and Faceters Digest, you agree to allow the Lapidary Arts and Faceters Digest Owner
to archive your posts permanently in our archives (when they are created) without compensation.

Although submissions will be edited for spelling and grammar, please run your submission
through a spell-checker before sending it. In editing, I will not change (intentionally) the
content of the message.

Swapping/selling/buying are encouraged, but don't send a big list. If you have a long
list, just send a message to the group that you have such a list, and they can e-mail
you for a copy.

Dealers and commercial entities are encouraged to participate--we can learn a lot from
you, and that's what this is all

Signature messages are restricted to five lines.

Newcomers to the list are requested to send in a short BIO-- tell us who you are, what
your Lapidary interests are, how long you've been doing lapidary, what kind of equipment
you have, and so on. Use the word 'BIO:', followed by your name, on the subject line.

If you have any suggestions for improving the list, please send them to me at

This list is managed using software named post.office from the source
http://www.software.com and Group Mail Pro from infacta ltd .

If you subscribe as described above, you will get a copy of this letter from the List
Software, you may wish to keep that copy filed away. Copies can also be requested from the
list owner at owner lapidary@caprock-spur.com and from the Archives when they are provided.

Let's all have fun!!!


Thurmond Moore III
Spur, TX
revised 11/02/2002

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