committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
Issue No.16 - Tuesday November 26, 2002
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Index to Today's Digest

Lapidary Messages:
01 Re: Tarnish Free Silver
02 Re: Tarnish Free Silver

Faceting Messages:
03 cutting apatite
04 Radiation Poisoning
05 Scratchy Diamond Powders from "clumping"
06 Dial indicator
07 synthetic corundum
08 pre-former wanted

Business Section - No messages today.


Subject: Re: Tarnish Free Silver
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:22:35 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: John McLaughlin <jemstone@amug.org>

> "Some South American silversmiths use an 80% alloy that does not tarnish."
> Mr. Clark wrote me back and said that he thought that the trick was the use of nickel, and
> that perhaps a reader was familiar with this. As for the use of nickel I am afraid that this
> may very well be the case, which rules out its use for any of my close relatives as they have
> a metal allergy. Far more common than many suspect. Which is why a local station aired a
> program on "white gold problems." Most is made with a nickel alloy, but sometimes (not often)
> palladium is used for white gold, which avoids the problem. However is that is the case not
> all is lost as I have no metal allergies, and would seriously consider this (for myself) if
> it is not some kind of nightmare to alloy for casting.

Hi Jake,

I have found a source for non-tarnishing casting silver. To my knowledge, this has no nickel
in it. I believe it is 92.5 silver, but I may be mistaken. The e-mail from the factory rep
follows, along with his e-mail address. More details are available on their web site:

From: Vinny Guadagna <vinnyg@unitedpmr.com>

The S-88 sterling will actually have better tarnish resistance than the S-57. The S-57 is
designed more for casting than rolling.

Please let me know the size, thickness, and number of pieces you need and we will do our best
to meet your needs.

Best Regards,

Hope this helps,

John McLaughlin
Glendale, Arizona


Subject: "Jake's" question
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 01:56:47 -0800
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Gail Bumala" <boomart@cascadeaccess.com>

Dear Jake,
When I was in highschool, our instructor urged us to avoid bringing
in "Mexican Silver" to use for casting or any recycling purpose, for
that matter. Because of the nickel, it was difficult to melt and cast
and very brittle. Also, many people experience "contact dermatitis" from
nickel, which range from minor itching to full skin breakdown and nasty
skin ulcers. Breathing in the dust is quite hazardous to many body
organs and is almost certainly a carcinogen. I'd rather get out the
polish and a cloth. Sincerely, Gail Ann, Sandy, Oregon, USA,



Subject: cutting apatite
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:48:17 EST
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: GemDigital@cs.com

Hi all,
I am about to cut my first Apatite. Would like some feedback on the list's
experience with working with this material.

I have a full range of cutting discs up to 3K diamond and for polishing I
have 14K on Last Lap, 50K on BATT, Tin/Lead, Zinc and an array of
UltraLaps including, Alumina, Cerium, Spectra and Chrome Oxide.

I am already aware of Apatite's delicate nature and aversion to heat and
therefore more interested in the best way to cut and polish. Thank you in
advance for your comments.

Roger Dery


Hi Roger, I would like an answer to this one as well since my first apatite cutting experience
was a difficult one. The stuff is so soft it is difficult to get a good finish. I ended up using a blue
Spectra Lap but the results were a commercial polish at best.



Subject: Radiation Poisoning
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 17:13:11 -0700
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

I asked a question a few weeks ago about Mark Liccinni and whether he
died of a disease caused by radiation poisoning. I received one
response from a medical professional off this list. They said that most
blood diseases can be caused by radiation. For a fact they said that
the most gaurded against diseases caused by chemotherapy are blood
diseases. I am concerned for two reasons. One it is my belief that a
lot of radiated gemstones are coming into the USA without being tested
to make sure that they are safe. Two, I cut a lot of radiated gemstones
both in rough and in finished stones. No matter how careful you are
when cutting you still breath and come into contact with some of the
dust from grinding. Usually that dust is very fine particles in
atomized water which readily is absorbed in your lungs. Every treater of
gemstones I know that treats in the USA has the stones cut first in Asia
then treated in the USA. When you cut out of rough you get to cut the
radiated stones. Following is a list of materials I know are radiated
to obtain their color : Lemon citrine, blue topaz, Imperial Topaz, red
quartz, green quartz, heliodor beryl, smoky quartz, bi-color smokey and
citrine, bi-color smokey and clear quartz. The list could be larger as
I could of missed a few and no one knows exactly what is being done to
the rough and to the cut stones. Are we being slowly poisoned as we cut
our rocks? Does anyone know?

Gerry Galarneau


Hi Gerry, I have a geiger counter so I always am on the lookout for any radioactive
gems and minerals. So far I have not found any radiation above background levels
in any faceting rough or finished stones I have checked. I did find a slight radioactivity
in some opalite from Colorado that I picked up at our spring show for cabbing ( understandable
since it comes from uranium country). Still though the radiation levels in this sample were well
below the test source fixed to the side of my geiger counter for calibration.
E-bay usually has quite a few low cost geiger counters on any given day.
I gave 50 bucks for mine.


Subject: Scratchy Diamond Powders from "clumping"
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:20:34 -0500
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <webmaster@gearloose.com>

I have been examining some imported diamond powders, in the course of
investigating a scratching problem someone had.
When making your own compound, or when using diamond powder and oil in
charging laps, it is ESSENTIAL that the material be properly sheared.
Sometimes, when diamond powder has been stored a long time, especially if
water or some other liquid has been adsorbed on the diamond powder, it can
"cake", and sometimes form very durable, almost ceramic-like agglomerates
that will cause a particular type of scratching. (A horsetail or comet-like
scratch when viewed under a microscope at several hundred X)
Another, easier way, is to suspend the diamond powder in a light oil, or in
a detergent solution, and allow it to stand an hour or two. The liquid
poured off the top should be free of these larger particles and can be
safely used as a low-concentration polish.
See the pictures and the report at http://www.battlap.info/diamond.html

Remember, one does not just "mix diamond powder with a carrier".


Subject: Dial indicator
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:53:35 -0600
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Dennis J Brown" <lamebeaver3@insightbb.com>

I have a 30 year old Ultra-Tec "Left Hand" machine and would like to put
a dial indicator on it but they no longer make them. What I need is a
series of photos of an existing installation so that I can make one for
myself. Does anybody have one on a machine, right or left, so that I can
see how it is constructed.



Subject: synthetic corundum
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:06:01 -0600
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Charles" <flynn4@midrivers.com>

I would like to know if any of the readers have experience with, the synthetic
corundum types. These being czochralski pulled, flame fusion, and
hydrothermal. Besides the obvious differences in price are there any
differences in the quality of the gem obtain upon comparable faceting.
Also is one easier to work than another.

Charles Flynn


Subject: pre-former
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:25:38 EST
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Bellcha7@aol.com

Anybody out there got a plan for a cheap pre-forming rig.



Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org


Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com



Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org


FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: tgibbs@compuserve.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )



Subject: the fraying rope...

There were 11 people hanging onto a rope that came down from a helicopter.
Ten were men and one woman. The rope was starting to fray so they all
agreed that one person should let go because if they didn't the rope would
break and everyone would die. No one could decide who should go so finally the
woman gave a real touching speech saying how she would give up her life to
save theirs, because women were used to giving up things for their husbands
and children, giving in to men, and that after all men were the superior
sex and must be saved. When she finished speaking, all the men clapped.

Never underestimate the power of a woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Subject: RE: Issue No.15 - Monday November 25, 2002
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:00:07 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Naomi Sarna" <nsarna@earthlink.net>

Hello all, the reflections section was most interesting. for further
consideration: humble pie was made of the 'humbles' or umbles, the
intestines or chittlins of animals. It was basically a chittlin quiche,
milk, eggs, onion, and 'umbles' with cinnamon and sugar sprinkled on the
top. Trenchers were served to 'trenchermen' who were able to eat them, a sop
was a piece of trencher soaked in wine, as in 'throw them a sop'. Crudities
were the same then as now, raw veggies; the fancy folks ate 'above the salt'
and the lesser folk, who got the lower crust, also sat below the salt. forks
were not in general table use until the 1500's -1600's. People brought their
own knife and spoon when they went to someone's house to eat. In those
baths, when they took them, it was not unusual to eat there also. Foods
were often colored or flavored with sandalwood and spices were used to
preserve, hide putrefaction and show how rich you were. And, in conclusion,
sumptuary laws dictated the number of yards of cloth you could wear
according to your rank. I have mounted many Medieval feasts and wish I could
cut gemstones as well as I can cook.

Regards, Naomi in New York


Subject: AD
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:44:27 -0500
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Bob Collins <nichesw@comcast.net>

CZ - Final Sale

Hi Cutters,

I expect this to be my final update to this ad...

As I said, I am not a rough dealer... just a cutter like you.

Recently I had the opportunity to buy a mixed lot of Russian CZ... as it

turned out, it was MUCH more CZ than I would ever cut!!!
So I sold some of it to others.

Well, I got seduced again!!! I was able to get some of the nicer, more
exotic colors... (couldn't resist!) so, I once again have much too much
just for me.

Once this is gone... THERE WILL BE NO MORE FROM ME!!!
...AND, I'm going to cut prices and beat all competition that I am aware
Good opportunity to stock up!

I have it in the following colors / sizes:

Dark Violet - Amethyst (avg. 160 cts)
Lavender 50 - 85cts (avg. 70)
Champagne 100 - 520cts (avg. 165)
Red 50 - 592cts (avg. 75)
Red/Brown (Cognac?) 100 - 366cts (avg. 120)
Orange (Padpradscha?) 10 - 65cts. (avg. 25) SUPER!
Peridot (Apple?) Green 25 - 120cts. (avg. 35)
Light Pink 20 - 700cts (avg. 35)
Medium Pink - all about 35cts.
Yellow - light 25 - 45cts. (avg. 35)
Yellow - medium - all about 35cts.
Yellow - dark 15 - 50cts. (avg. 35)

All the above at a FINAL price of $0.04/ct. (avg. retail = $0.08 to

Now the "Exotics"!!!

Green - shades vary from a lighter green with a touch of yellow to a
deeper green. 35 - 100 cts. (avg. 70)

Light Blue - looks a lot like mid-grade blue topaz in color. Avg. about

Blue(s) - Medium blue to Teal color. Avg. about 150cts.

Electric Blue - WILD!!! 40 - 250cts. (avg. 100)

The Green/Blue are more expensive... $0.18/ct. (Avg. retail = about

Let me know what size(s) you require and I will do my best to meet your
$25 min. order, please.

Postage and insurance (at my cost) will be extra.



Rough to Cut
If you're looking for quality facet rough please check out Rough to Cut,
http://www.roughtocut.com. We offer a wide range of quality facet rough
from Aquamarine to Zircon. Large selections in stock currently of Beryl,
Garnets & Tourmalines. Please check us out & when you do, why not give a
try to our contest, you could win a 5ct + piece of Spessartite garnet
facet rough.

Rough to Cut


Facet polishing laps
Still have a couple of dozen Vargas Pol-A-Gem laps left. Only Cerium Oxide
in 6" size. There will be no more 8". Glenn really is not interested in
fiddling with his lathe to correct his maching problems at 8". He and his
protoge, Dick Rugel, will make more 6" if there is demand. There is nothing
faster,better or more durable than a Pol-A-Gem for quartz,sunstone, opal etc.
One lap should last a lifetime ....and they DO NOT SCRATCH. They also work
great on 8" machines. Lemme know your interest. Price delivered in US is
Jerry Newman Gemart Services gemartserv@aol.com


Subject: AD
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

Contact b-daw@pacbell.net

Honey, red & brown zircons, 10g parcels @$20/parcel

Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included

Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs

Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly
included, up to 1g.

Blue Beryl (Aquamarine) $6/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals
Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
zoned green
Cabbing Grade Aquamarine $3/g


Must sell the following rough - no reasonable offer refused -

Rose Malaya Garnet - deep red, eye clean african material - 1 kg available -
$2.00/gram for quantities of 500 grams or more

Red Zircon - eye clean african material - 300g available - $2.00/gram if you
take the entire 300 grams

Spessartite Orange Garnet - slightly to moderately included African
material - Ranges from 1.5 - 3 cts size - $7.50 per gram if you take the
entire 300 grams

I have put pictures of the rough and stones cut from it on the web -
check it out at: http://www.wintershill.com/rough

You can email me (Richard) for more info or ?'s at: wntrhill@somtel.com

Rock Peddler
Complete online discount catalog for cabbing and faceting machines, wheels,
laps, polishes, diamond saws, diamond blades, and general lapidary supplies
at http://www.rockpeddler.com.


Gewelers Gems
e-mail: sales@jewelersgems.com
Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6" you can charge both sides with
diamond. http://www.jewelersgems.com/faceting_laps.htm


NOW ONLINE! RRGaetan Gem Rough - Featuring excellent, facet-grade,
Colombian Emerald rough! PLUS, Chrome Tourmaline, Achroite Tourmaline,
Golden Chrome Tourmaline, Aquamarine, Spess, Mint and Malaya Garnets,
and more! For photos and more information, visit us at rrgaetan.com.




For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It is called
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.' Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten. The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note: The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2." If further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon


Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

First USFG faceting list design competition.

Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in Colorless or Colored Topaz

Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone judging
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.

Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list site
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.

Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.

RI 1.61
head shadow 5 degrees
ignore glare no (default)
tilt movie yes (default)
starting tilt direction 0
ending tilt direction 5 (default)
maximum tilt angle 50
tilt increment 10
suppress VGA no (default)
concave no (default)
COS files no (default)
ISO files no ( you can enter yes if you wish
but it will fill your disk )
DISP files no (default)
exit files no (default)
starting file # increment each run if you wish to save images

Values for ISO will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional

Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.


all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.

more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so but most
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach. This
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that you
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter as a
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have design
mentors who are happy to help you.

for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright holder
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles, new tiers
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance as you

Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished stone
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC Hobnob in
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged

I hope this format will encourage design and optimization oldtimers and
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and interest.
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.

Dan Clayton




Canaveral Mineral & Gem Society is again presenting
our yearly gem show, the Parade of Gems, November 23rd and 24th at the
Melbourne auditorium, 625 E Hibiscus Blvd in Melbourne, FL, from 10AM to
6PM. Admission is $3, with kids under 12 admitted free.


Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's annual show will be held on Dec. 14 and 15 at
the Volusia County Fairgrounds, located on state route 44 in Deland, Florida.
Fairgrounds are 1 mile east of interstate route 4 at exit 118. We will have at
least one showcase of faceted gems done by our members. Thank you, John Withey



Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003

You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.

The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630 email: glennklein@yahoo.com


The Middle Tennessee Gem & Mineral Society, Inc. announces their
22nd annual "Earth Treasures" Jewelry, Gem, Mineral and Fossil Show.
There will be door prizes, auctions, exhibits, demonstrations and 30
dealers from around the US.

The MTG&MS is a not-for-profit educational society, made up of local
members from around Middle Tennessee, interested in the study, collection
and understanding of minerals, the earth's geological history, jewelry
making, and the polishing of gem stones. The profit from this annual
show and sale go to fund nine (9) scholarships at regional universities,
along with two Tennessee Elementary Schooll Earth Science projects
and two middle Tennessee Senior Citizens workshop programs.

Date: December 14-15, 2002

Time: 9 AM-6 PM Saturday & 10 AM-5 PM Sunday

Place: Creative Arts Building, Tennessee State Fairgrounds, Nashville, Tennessee

Admission: $2.00 Adults, $0.50 High School Students, Under 12 free with an adult

Contact: Will Smith (615) 366-1022 Show Chairperson

Web Site: www.mtgms.org Email: willsmith.2@comcastnet

Exhibits: Show cases of Fossils, Minerals, Jewelry, cut and polished gemstones

Including local Elmwood minerals from the zinc mines at Carthage and beautiful
Tennessee Paint Rock Agate from the mountains of Middle Tennessee

Demonstrations: Silversmithing, beading, wire wrapping, flint knapping and faceting

Other activities: Hourly door prizes and silent auctions

Dealers will offer:

Gold and silver jewelry, mountings and repair

Colored gem stones & diamonds, loose or mounted in jewelry

Crystals and minerals from around the world including our local-world renowned
golden calcites from Carthage

Fossils and artifacts including dinosaur life, marine life and prehistoric arrowheads,
along with modern flint knapping

Tools and supplies for the above

Feel free to call if you have any questions. We appreciate your help and support.


Roanoke Valley Mineral & Gem Society - 22nd Annual Show at the
Salem Civic Center, Salem, VA 11/29-12/1/02. Thanks,Larry White



KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis

ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net

INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>

S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)

MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim

TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan

WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield

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