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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
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Issue No.31 - Thursday December 19, 2002
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Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
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Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Click a link below to post to the list:
for faceting questions faceters@caprock-spur.com
for lapidary questions lapidary@caprock-spur.com
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Index to Today's Digest

01 Re: Radiation
02 Re: Cutting Topaz
03 For Sale: Pink Zircon Rough
04 Re: Radiation
05 Re: Cutting Cabs on a Faceting Machine...

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Message:01

Subject: Radiation
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:09:02 -0700
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Galarneau's" <gggemswcr@cox.net>

Jerelyn & All,
Thanks for the concern and I would appreciate any information you can
provide. I am not concerned about a lethal dosage. What I am concerned
about is small dosages over long periods of time. I buy my rough in
kilo quantities and it is sometimes stored for years before I cut it. I
am concerned about small dosages of radiation both for myself and for my
customers that wear the jewelry every day. I would like to know
information about diseases enhanced or caused by continuous low level
exposure.
I also am interested in buying the correct radiation sensing device.
My research has just started on this issue. Any help you can provide
will be appreciated.

Gerry Galarneau
ggwcr@cox.net
www.galarneausgems.com

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Message:02

Subject: Re: Issue No.30 - Wednesday December 18, 2002
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:29:26 EST
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Joeala96@aol.com

This comes under what works for me, Topaz is ten to fifteen degrees off the
cleavage plane. I cut a cone dop to this angle. using a silacone carbide
sheet on a lap with lapidary disc cement. Remove when finished, no lap lost.
This method will give you the easy way to dop topaz. By the way this idea
came from Gerald Wykoff
joeala96@aol.com
Joe Mangelsdorf
McAllen, Tx

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Message:03

Subject: Pink Zircon Rough
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:16:57 -0600
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "William Smith" <westernpd@ev1.net>

I just wanted to drop others on the digest an email an see if anyone may
be interested in RARE Natural Pink Zircon Rough. Send me a direct reply
please love the stuff and thought some other zircon lovers out there
would love to play with this stuff. It has some TITANIUM in it and this
REALLY helps it take an OUTSTANDING polish.

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Message:04

Subject: Re: Radiation
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:48:53 -0500
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

We have a gemchat tomorrow night with the subject of gemstone
treatment. William Hill has collected a lot of information about both
heat and radiation treatment. We will probably cover diffusion
treatment another night. If you are curious join us for some info.
If you know more than we do come and share your knowledge.

http://gems.dnsart.com/babylon/

at 9:00 PM CST time in Texas or
7:00 PM PST on the west coast
That is about noon in Eastern Australia and Aussie Annie
should be with us to share her great knowledge. You will
need a browser with java enabled.


On Wednesday 18 December 2002 07:37 pm, you wrote:
> Gerry, I hope you realize that just because a stone has been
> irradiated, It does not necessarily mean that it is radioactive.
> This is not my area of expertise. There are stones such as topaz
> that can be made radioactive and there can be stones that have
> impurities in them that can be made radioactive, but I think that
> most are no cause for concern.

There are three types of radiation and each behaves a little
differently. Some gems are very "hot" for a few weeks after they
have been nuked.

Dan Clayton

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Message:05

Subject: Re: Cutting Cabs on a Faceting Machine..
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:49:32 -0700
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Vincent Weston <vweston@mac.com>

Jill,

I'll take a stab at this one since I have looked into it already.
Facetingmachines.com has a kit available. I have included a description.

Cut cabochons on your faceting machine!

(We put together a special package of Hi Tech Diamond Smoothing Discs
and accessories so you can cut cabochons on your faceting machine.
Rough in your cab on a coarse grit lap and finish it by going through
the grit sequence of the Hi Tech Smoothing Discs. The 325 Smoothing
Disc on top of a sponge pad and Backing Plate (Hi Tech Master Lap)
creates a surface with a lot of "give". Finer grits work best without
a sponge pad. The Hi Tech system makes your cabs nice and rounded with
no flat areas and provides a finely polished surface.
This is a great set up for people who only cut a few cabs now and then
and don't want to go to the expense of purchasing a cabbing machine.
It's also handy if you don't have room for a machine dedicated to
cutting cabs. )

Here is a URL http://www.facetingmachines.com/accessories.shtml

I do not know how well it works since I have not yet purchased one, but
you can call and ask. They are very willing to share their expertise.

Hope that helps.

Vincent L Weston


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RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~

Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
http://webdev.archive.org/ then enter www.liccini.com

RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~

Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com

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RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~

Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org

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FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: tgibbs@compuserve.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
http://www.attawaygems.com/NMFG
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
wrheitland@shaw.ca

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )

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TODAY'S FUNNY ~

The laws of golf
LAW 1: No matter how bad your last shot was, the worst is yet to come.
This law does not expire on the 18th hole, since it has the supernatural
tendency to extend over the course of a tournament, a summer and,
eventually, a lifetime.

LAW 2: Your best round of golf will be followed almost immediately by your
worst round ever. The probability of the latter increases with the number of
people you tell about the former.

LAW 3: Brand new golf balls are water-magnetic. Though this cannot be
proven in the lab, it is a known fact that the more expensive the golf ball,
the greater its attraction to water.

LAW 4: Golf balls never bounce off of trees back into play. If one does,
the tree is breaking a law of the universe and should be cut down.

LAW 5: No matter what causes a golfer to muff a shot, all his playing partners
must solemnly chant "You looked up," or invoke the wrath of the universe.

LAW 6: The higher a golfer's handicap, the more qualified he deems himself
as an instructor.

LAW 7: Every par-three hole in the world has a secret desire to humiliate
golfers. The shorter the hole, the greater its desire.

LAW 8: Topping a 3-iron is the most painful torture known to man.

LAW 9: Palm trees eat golf balls.

LAW 10: Sand is alive. If it isn't, how do you explain the way it works against you?

LAW 11: Golf carts always run out of juice at the farthest point from the clubhouse.

LAW 12: A golfer hitting into your group will always be bigger than anyone in your
group. Likewise, a group you accidentally hit into will consist of a football player,
a professional wrestler, a convicted murderer and an IRS agent -- or some similar combination.

LAW 13: All 3-woods are demon-possessed.

LAW 14: Golf balls from the same "sleeve" tend to follow one another, particularly out
of bounds or into the water (See Law three).

LAW 15: A severe slice is a thing of awesome power and beauty.

LAW 16: "Nice lag" can usually be translated to "lousy putt." Similarly, "tough break"
can usually be translated "way to miss an easy one, sucker."

LAW 17: The person you would most hate to lose to will always be the one who beats you.

LAW 18: The last three holes of a round will automatically adjust your score to what it
really should be.

LAW 19: Golf should be given up at least twice per month.

LAW 20: All vows taken on a golf course shall be valid only until the sunset.


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REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:

" A positive attitude brings on positive results."

--- Author Unknown ---

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CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS:


I've lowered the price on my large lapidary unit to $700 which includes a
lot of extras and I'll even throw in the table it is sitting on. A
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If I don't sell it by Xmas then I'll move it from Salem, OR to SC with
me.
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crclink@juno.com

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I have a lap I'm hoping to swap with someone on the list, in exchange
for faceting rough. The lap in question is a Crystalite 260-mesh "Dot Disc"
WITHOUT CENTER HOLE (ideal for someone who cuts on either a Facetron,
Crystalite "Crystal Master" or any brand of 8" cabbing equipment with a
1/4"x20 tapped screw holder at arbor's end). I'd received this as payment
for some faceting lessons, last summer, and which has only been gently used
once (literally). This lap is great for speedy stock removal, especially of
large, included areas of rough. The reason I'm unloading it is that it fits
neither my Ultra Tec nor Lee faceters, nor my 6" cabbing setup. (Sure does
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At last check, laps like this listed around $150 and sold around $90;
I'm looking for one or more nice pieces of faceting rough, to total ~$75, or
thereabouts. (Beryls, fancy (orange, pink, green or yellow) Garnets, nodular
Tourmalines and clean Sapphires are my first picks but, if you can use this
lap, let me know what you have and we'll take it from there.)

Many thanks, in advance,
Doug

Douglas Turet, GJ
Lapidary Artist, Designer & Goldsmith.
Turet Design
P. O. Box 162
Arlington, MA 02476
Tel. (617) 325-5328
Fax: (928) 222-0815
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Subject: Offset Preformer for sale
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:08:41 -0500
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Robert Edgar, Jr" <edgarr@mccc.edu>

Graves sells an Offset Preformer for $46.95. We have one that was used
one time. We would like to sell it for $25.00. This includes all of
the original instruction sheets and the cost of shipping to any of the
"Lower 48". Contact me offline if you are interested.
Bob Edgar GSJ Lapidary

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Subject: CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS:
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:40:35 EST
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: ACMEMINER2@aol.com

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Subject: Advertisement
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:12:01 EST
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: GEMARTSERV@aol.com

Books by Glenn and Martha Vargas : In time for CHRISTMAS

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Diagrams Volume I $30
Diagrams Volume II $30
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Media mail rates: Fac. for Amat. $2.26
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Will advise on non US delivery
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PS regarding the Vargas Pol-A-Gem laps: They are all gone for this season.
Glenn has agreed to make more in the spring when the weather warms up in our
desert; and will make Alumina-B as well as Cerium Oxide. I will post to the
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Subject: FS
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:15:39 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Tyler Allen" <t.allen@mindspring.com>

Members:
I had a Nigerian friend of mine send me some rough that he needs to blow
out. I have two kilos of Peach colored Zircon with a little red also
mostly to cut melee but there are a lot of large stones as well in the
parcel. Also, I have 200 grams of dark blue Indicolite Tourmaline
thats needs to be heat treated, last of all a parcel of 50 grams of
assorted pink/red colored Tourmaline. Make offers.

Tyler Allen
770-393-2547

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facet rough.

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Rough to Cut
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Subject: AD
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

AVAILABLE FOR SALE
Contact b-daw@pacbell.net

ZIRCONS
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GARNETS
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Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included

TOURMALINES
Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs

SAPPHIRES
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BERYL
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COMPETITIONS:

For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It is called
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.' Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten. The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note: The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2." If further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon

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Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

First USFG faceting list design competition.

Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in Colorless or Colored Topaz

Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone judging
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.

Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list site
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.

Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.

RI 1.61
head shadow 5 degrees
ignore glare no (default)
tilt movie yes (default)
starting tilt direction 0
ending tilt direction 5 (default)
maximum tilt angle 50
tilt increment 10
suppress VGA no (default)
concave no (default)
COS files no (default)
ISO files no ( you can enter yes if you wish
but it will fill your disk )
DISP files no (default)
exit files no (default)
starting file # increment each run if you wish to save images

Values for ISO will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional

Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.

Classes:

Individual,
all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.

Team/Coached,
more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so but most
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach. This
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that you
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter as a
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have design
mentors who are happy to help you.

Modified,
for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright holder
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles, new tiers
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance as you
please.

Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished stone
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC Hobnob in
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged
separately.


I hope this format will encourage design and optimization oldtimers and
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and interest.
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.


Dan Clayton


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SHOWDATES:

~ CALIFORNIA


FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003


You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.

The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630 email: glennklein@yahoo.com

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LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:


KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
faceter@bigfoot.com
Larry W. Davis
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ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net
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INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>
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S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
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MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim
*****

TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan
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WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
winfielr@inra.nimh.nih.gov
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