Issue No.30 - Wednesday December 18, 2002
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
Click a link below to post to the list:
for faceting questions faceters@caprock-spur.com
for lapidary questions lapidary@caprock-spur.com
Index to Today's Digest

01 Re: Gemstone Irradiation
02 Re: YourGemologist.com site
03 Wanted: White Sapphire rough
04 Progress Report on Raytech Misalignment Problem...
05 Cutting Cabs on a Faceting Machine...
06 Spectrolite Wanted----RESULTS
07 Re: 1" square gem boxes
08 Re: 1" square gem boxes
09 Re: Cutting Topaz
10 Re: Cutting Topaz


Subject: Gemstone Irradiation
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:53:06 EST
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: JerilynPtr@aol.com

To Gerry et all,

Gerry, I hope you realize that just because a stone has been irradiated, It
does not necessarily mean that it is radioactive. This is not my area of
expertise. There are stones such as topaz that can be made radioactive and
there can be stones that have impurities in them that can be made
radioactive, but I think that most are no cause for concern.

Buying a Geiger counter is of little use to you if you don't know how to use
it, or what it means if you do hear some clicks over background. If you get
the wrong Geiger counter for the job, you will think that you are getting a
lethal dose of irradiation.

While doing basic research for a small biotech company, I also got the
dubious honor of being radiation safety officer, I often had to go into our
hot room and explain to a new person that they were using a Geiger counter
that was too sensitive for the job and that they were not going to die the
next week form a lethal dose of irradiation.

I am sure that there are some folks on this list who have more information
about this subject. I would very much like to know more. Did Lincini's web
site include information about this? Thurmond, would you, one more time give
the site that has the backup, please.

Jerilyn Petersons
Kirkland, Washington


http://webdev.archive.org/ then enter www.liccini.com

Subject: Re: YourGemologist.com site
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:51:02 -0500
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

On Tuesday 17 December 2002 02:35 pm, you wrote:
> From: "Frank Romano" <romanfj@hotmail.com>
> Does anybody know what's going on with the yourGemologist website?
> Frank Romano
> "Gemcutters are Multifaceted Individuals"

hi Frank and other interested faceters,

I think I know as much about this as anyone except Robert James and
he has not said very much. Robert shut down the site about a week ago.
He has a full time job as a consulting gemmologist to a major
insurance company and other commitments plus a son that is less than
two years old. I think Robert has just burned out. He had some very
good gemmological content on his site and one directory has been
activated on the page again. He is going to put the content back on
the site and leave for a few weeks so people can capture the gemstone,
identification, instruments and grading information. The site is for
sale but I don't know if anyone would be interested since it was a
"hobby type site" for Robert. He sunk a lot of time, money and energy
into the site but I know it did not support itself. I suggest you
suck the educational information off the site and save it on your
computer and a CD if you are interested in gemmology. I don't know
if anyone is interested in hosting the forum on another site. We had
a "gemchat" which was part of the first commercial course and then
took on a life of it's own. I started saving those chat sessions and
emailing them to people who wanted notes saved. I have a small
mailing list now for the gemchats but there are less than twenty
members and I am not sure it will hold together. You can sign on
at http://gems.dnsart.com/mailman/listinfo/gemchat if you
are interested. I plan to get a gemchat room running again this
week and maybe we can keep some of the information exchange
going. If someone is interested I think you could get enough
subscriptions to make the site self supporting but I have trouble
even imagining that you could make a living. If anyone is interested
get in touch with me as well as Robert. I know some people who
are interested in contributing content and answering questions.

It sounds like Robert is releasing the copyrights for his
informational pages and you should suck those onto your computer
if you are interested in gemmology.

Dan Clayton
Puyallup WA.



Subject: White Sapphire rough
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:41:54 -0500
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Kevin Bloom <bloomk@comcast.net>

Hi, does anyone know of a source for white sapphire rough, natural?
Kevin Bloom


Subject: Progress Report on Raytech Misalignment Problem...
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:16:55 -0800
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Jill St. Michael" <jsdp@san.rr.com>

Hi everyone,

Again, want to say "thanks!" for all the helpful advice on our misaligned
tables. Basically, here's what we did with the info: I couldn't bear the
thought of shipping off our machine for who-knows-how-long, so after
gathering and considering all the info, we began with the "do-it-yourself,"
simplest approaches first and it seems we have corrected the problem. What
worked? A simple shift in cutting procedure. Rather than faceting the table
first and then attempting to symmetrically cut in 16 girdle facets to meet
that table, we cut one or two girdle facets, then the table, and THEN cut in
the remaining girdle facets. Works like a charm!!

Scott Moseley and a few other contributed this suggestion and over the last
weekend, Ray cut 5 beautiful SRBs! Who knows, the Raytech could in fact be
out of alignment, but if using this method will keep our baby in its
honorable place on our table, then I'll gladly use this method!!

A million thanks to everyone and I'll keep all those suggestions on file,
"just in case"... :-)



Subject: Cutting Cabs on a Faceting Machine...
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:24:49 -0800
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Jill St. Michael" <jsdp@san.rr.com>

Hi Everyone,

Being the "official" grader of rocks in our gem rough business, I've
collected a swimming pool full of beautiful material that is, unfortunately,
unfit for faceting. I'd love to cab some of these beauties but all we have
is our little Raytech. However, I recently heard that I don't need special
equipment to cab stones, that I can cab them right on our Raytech! If
anyone can give me step-by-step instructions on how to do this, I'd be
eternally grateful and maybe I could reduce that swimming pool full of
rocks to fit into a small jacuzzi... :-)

Thanks in advance for any info,
Jill St. Michael,
RRGaetan Gem Rough


Subject: Spectrolite Wanted----RESULTS
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:10:19 -0800 (PST)
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: Dale Rhode <rhodescabbin@yahoo.com>

I just want to say a BIG Thank-you to everyone that responded to my request for
Spectrolite rough. Turns out I had several friends on the list that I hadn't heard
from in years, nor did I know they even belonged to the list!!! Thanks again and
Merry Christmas!!!

Dale Rhode of Rhodes Cabbin And Gems


Subject: Message:05 1" square gem boxes
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:39:25 -0800
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Bob Boston" <rvb@ihot.com>

RE: Message:05

>Subject: 1" square gem boxes
>Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:14:30 -0800 (PST)
>To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
>From: Dave Thompson <djt@irastro.caltech.edu>

>I'm looking for a source for 1" square gem boxes. I can
>find the round ones easily, but I have a nice case for the square
>ones which I picked up in Germany. Over the years, I've sold or
>given away enough stones that I am running out of boxes!

>Thanks, Dave (Pasadena, CA)

Dave, I see Kingsley North at www.kingsleynorth.com lists a
"Replacement Square Box 1in. White # 4-0097b @ .25 ea. I don't know if
this will fill your needs, but you might check with them.
Bob Boston


Subject: Square gemstone boxes
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:42:43 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "J Wagstaff" <wagstajo@kos.net>

Dave Thompson wrote "I'm looking for a source for 1" square gem
boxes........" Try the following link. They just had them on sale for
1/2 price.
When in the search under "Gemstone" it lists "gemstone tools and boxes"
. Item #SE2Box ( on sale for 9.00 for 12) These are 1 1/2"x 1 1/2"
with a glass top.
Usual disclaimers...I just purchased 24


Subject: Cutting Topaz
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:25:03 EST
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: "Hilton D. Freed" <hilton.freed@juno.com>

Hi Rockey,

To polish toapz, it is important to cut it off its cleavage plain. Look
at your stone and try to find a side that has a "rainbow" play of colors.
That will be your cleavage plane. If you have a "water-worn" pebble of
topaz, you may have to grind a "window" on it by hand-holding it to your
lap and grinding a clear side on it until you find the plane. The
cleavage plane is where the lattice of the crystal bond is the weakest,
thus making it difficult to polish (the lattice just peels away). Once
you find the cleavage plane, glue your dop on the OTHER side (pavillion),
and cut the table in around 8 degrees off from 45. In otherwords, at 37
degrees. Once the table is roughed in, remove the dop (from the
pavillion end), put it on the slanted table and cut and polish the
pavilion as you would normally do (orienting it to the slanted table).
The whole stone should be off the cleavage plane now. Transfer the dop
to the pavillion and finish cutting and then polish the table. I have
seen figures for cutting off the plane to be anywhere from 5 degrees to
15. Don't use your best rough until you find what suits you. An
alternate method is to dedicate a dop for cutting topaz by grinding the
flat end at the angle you want to use and just go ahead and stick it on
the rough's cleavage plane. As with all elements of faceting, good luck.



Subject: Faceting Topaz
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:17:05 -0500
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "Douglas Turet" <anotherbrightidea@hotmail.com>

Rockey wrote:
"Can someone give me a few hints as how to cut and polish topaz the right

Hi Rockey,

Sure, glad to help! For starters, you're going to need to look
carefully at your Topaz rough, to orient it for color and clarity, just as
with most other forms of facteing (or cabbing) rough. With Topaz, though,
you'll need to be watchful for the material's Basal Cleavage. That's the
flat, shiny, natural facet you'll most likely see on on side (or two
opposite sides) of your rough. While the "C-axis" (the direction you're
looking at, when looking straight down through one of those cleavages)
direction usually offers both the best, most saturated color and the lowest
degree of double refraction, it also poses problems, since it's nearly
impossible to polish a faceted stone's Table facet, if it's placed at the
same angle as the cleavage plane.
What most cutters do is to tilt the stone slightly (say, 10-15
degrees), then grind a temporary table (flat spot) to dop onto, and then
begin cutting the pavilion of the stone. As for the mechanics of this, I'd
recommend starting with either a 325 or 360 grit lap and cutting the preform
(if any) and largest facet groups, then moving to a 600 lap and recutting
all of these, plus adding on some of the smaller facets, then recutting,
again, with a 1200 lap (this time, making sure that each and every facet's
meetpoints come together, "just so"), and, finally, polishing with
Crystalite's 50,000 mesh Diamond, sprayed atop a thin mist of WD-40, on a
fast-moving BATT Lap.
In a pinch, you can always get away with Linde A and water on just
about any lap, from lucite or phenolic to tin or zinc but, when you come
right down to it, I think the BATT is about as terrific a lap as anyone's
yet managed to make, and it helps that it's inventor is someone I admire and
consider a friend, as well. (If you haven't already tried the BATT, it's
surface "feel" is about as comfortably slick and forgiving as tin-lead, but
it's much harder and more groove resistant; more like a zinc/typemetal lap.
And perhaps it's just my humble opinion, but it seems as though I'm able to
bring up polishes faster on the BATT than on just about any other lap, with
the possible exception of a Falcon, on some materials.
Well, Rockey, that's about all there is to it, I guess. If you find
yourself up against a facet that just refuses to polish, no matter what you
try, then reposition your mast, slightly, so that the lap is approaching the
facet in question from a slightly different angle, and that should take care
of the problem straightaway.

Happy holidays

Douglas Turet, GJ
Lapidary Artist, Designer & Goldsmith.
Turet Design
P. O. Box 162
Arlington, MA 02476
Tel. (617) 325-5328
Fax: (928) 222-0815
Email: anotherbrightidea@hotmail.com



Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
http://webdev.archive.org/ then enter www.liccini.com


Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com



Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org


FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: tgibbs@compuserve.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )



Caught for speeding
The cop got out of his car and the kid he had stopped for
speeding rolled down his window. "I've been waiting for you all
day," the cop said. The kid replied, "Well I got here as
fast as I could." When the cop finally stopped laughing, he sent the
kid on his way without a ticket.

Stuck under a bridge
A truck driver was driving along on the freeway. A sign
comes up that reads "low bridge ahead." Before he knows it
the bridge is right ahead of him and he gets stuck under
the bridge. Cars are backed up for miles.
Finally, a police car comes up. The cop gets out of his
car and walks around to the truck driver, puts his hands
on his hips and says, "Got stuck, huh?"
The truck driver says, "No, I was delivering this bridge
and ran out of gas."

Let's go for stupid
A lady was picking through the frozen turkeys at the
grocery store, but couldn't find one big enough for her
family. She asked a stock boy, "Do these turkeys get any
bigger?" The stock boy replied, "No ma'am, they're dead."

Too Late
The man was in no shape to drive, so he wisely left his
car parked and walked home. As he was walking unsteadily
along, he was stopped by a policeman.
"What are you doing out here at 2 A.M.?" asked the
"I'm going to a lecture." The man said.
"And who is going to give a lecture at this hour?" the cop
"My wife," said the man.



"What is causing this traffic congestion? According to a
report from the U.S. Department of Transportation, which
recently completed a six-year, $187.3 million study of the
problem, the root cause is, quote, 'a whole lot of people
driving.'" --Dave Barry



I've lowered the price on my large lapidary unit to $700 which includes a
lot of extras and I'll even throw in the table it is sitting on. A
lapidary friend in Salem tells me this is a real good buy for somebody.
If I don't sell it by Xmas then I'll move it from Salem, OR to SC with


I have a lap I'm hoping to swap with someone on the list, in exchange
for faceting rough. The lap in question is a Crystalite 260-mesh "Dot Disc"
WITHOUT CENTER HOLE (ideal for someone who cuts on either a Facetron,
Crystalite "Crystal Master" or any brand of 8" cabbing equipment with a
1/4"x20 tapped screw holder at arbor's end). I'd received this as payment
for some faceting lessons, last summer, and which has only been gently used
once (literally). This lap is great for speedy stock removal, especially of
large, included areas of rough. The reason I'm unloading it is that it fits
neither my Ultra Tec nor Lee faceters, nor my 6" cabbing setup. (Sure does
make a nice paperweight, though!)
At last check, laps like this listed around $150 and sold around $90;
I'm looking for one or more nice pieces of faceting rough, to total ~$75, or
thereabouts. (Beryls, fancy (orange, pink, green or yellow) Garnets, nodular
Tourmalines and clean Sapphires are my first picks but, if you can use this
lap, let me know what you have and we'll take it from there.)

Many thanks, in advance,

Douglas Turet, GJ
Lapidary Artist, Designer & Goldsmith.
Turet Design
P. O. Box 162
Arlington, MA 02476
Tel. (617) 325-5328
Fax: (928) 222-0815
Email: anotherbrightidea@hotmail.com


Subject: Offset Preformer for sale
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:08:41 -0500
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Robert Edgar, Jr" <edgarr@mccc.edu>

Graves sells an Offset Preformer for $46.95. We have one that was used
one time. We would like to sell it for $25.00. This includes all of
the original instruction sheets and the cost of shipping to any of the
"Lower 48". Contact me offline if you are interested.
Bob Edgar GSJ Lapidary


Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:40:35 EST
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: ACMEMINER2@aol.com

Howdy Folks!

I have a couple items that would make a great gift for the
lapidarist/collector on your shopping list this year!

Gem display cases and a great VHS video on mining gemstones in America!
It will take you to some famous Tourmaline mines in Main and California. Red
Emerald in Utah. Sleeping Beauty mine in Arizona for Turquoise and Peridot
on the San Carlos reservation. Sunstone in Oregon and much more!

You can see my items on my specials page at this link.






Subject: Advertisement
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:12:01 EST
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: GEMARTSERV@aol.com

Books by Glenn and Martha Vargas : In time for CHRISTMAS

Faceting For Amateurs, Third Edtion $35
Diagrams Volume I $30
Diagrams Volume II $30
Diagrams Volume III $30
Descriptions of Gem Materials, Third Edition $25
Calif. residents please add 7.75% sales tax

Media mail rates: Fac. for Amat. $2.26
Others $1.84
Any two $3.10
Will advise on non US delivery
Contact Jerry Newman at: gemartserv@aol.com

PS regarding the Vargas Pol-A-Gem laps: They are all gone for this season.
Glenn has agreed to make more in the spring when the weather warms up in our
desert; and will make Alumina-B as well as Cerium Oxide. I will post to the
list when more become available. Thanks to all who ordered over the last few


Subject: FS
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:15:39 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Tyler Allen" <t.allen@mindspring.com>

I had a Nigerian friend of mine send me some rough that he needs to blow
out. I have two kilos of Peach colored Zircon with a little red also
mostly to cut melee but there are a lot of large stones as well in the
parcel. Also, I have 200 grams of dark blue Indicolite Tourmaline
thats needs to be heat treated, last of all a parcel of 50 grams of
assorted pink/red colored Tourmaline. Make offers.

Tyler Allen


Rough to Cut
If you're looking for quality facet rough please check out Rough to Cut,
http://www.roughtocut.com. We offer a wide range of quality facet rough
from Aquamarine to Zircon. Large selections in stock currently of Beryl,
Garnets & Tourmalines. Please check us out & when you do, why not give a
try to our contest, you could win a 5ct + piece of Spessartite garnet
facet rough.

Rough to Cut


Subject: AD
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

Contact b-daw@pacbell.net

Honey, red & brown zircons, 10g parcels @$20/parcel

Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included

Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs

Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly
included, up to 1g.

Blue Beryl (Aquamarine) $6/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals
Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
zoned green
Cabbing Grade Aquamarine $3/g


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at http://www.rockpeddler.com.


Gewelers Gems
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Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6" you can charge both sides with
diamond. http://www.jewelersgems.com/faceting_laps.htm


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For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition. It is called
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.' Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten. The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note: The designs and rules
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2." If further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon


Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

First USFG faceting list design competition.

Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in Colorless or Colored Topaz

Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone judging
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.

Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list site
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.

Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.

RI 1.61
head shadow 5 degrees
ignore glare no (default)
tilt movie yes (default)
starting tilt direction 0
ending tilt direction 5 (default)
maximum tilt angle 50
tilt increment 10
suppress VGA no (default)
concave no (default)
COS files no (default)
ISO files no ( you can enter yes if you wish
but it will fill your disk )
DISP files no (default)
exit files no (default)
starting file # increment each run if you wish to save images

Values for ISO will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional

Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.


all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.

more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so but most
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach. This
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that you
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter as a
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have design
mentors who are happy to help you.

for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright holder
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles, new tiers
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance as you

Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished stone
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC Hobnob in
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged

I hope this format will encourage design and optimization oldtimers and
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and interest.
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.

Dan Clayton




Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003

You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.

The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630 email: glennklein@yahoo.com



KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis

ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net

INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>

S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)

MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim

TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan

WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield

Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!


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