LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST
committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
Issue No.19 - Tuesday December 3, 2002
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Index to Today's Digest
01 Re: Radiation and Rough.
02 Re: Zircon and Tourmaline FS
03 Re: New Orleans Rock Shop
04 Re: Lakeside Lapidary
05 Help needed
Business Section - No messages today.
Subject: Radiation and Rough.
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 20:08:38 -0500
To: email@example.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: "Jonathan L. Rolfe" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
At 06:01 PM 12/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>I also have a geiger counter. Out of everything I've ever tested,
>found that yellow/green Tanzanian chrysoberyl has the highest
>But even so, the readings aren't particularly high.
I have used radiation counting to verify Moldavite. Even then, it
very slightly above background, something like 5~10 CPM/Gram.
Wasn't there a batch of hot crysoberyl that got out a few years
Some zircons are very slightly above background also, from natural
of Hafnium 174, which exists in nature at 0.18% in hafnium (177~180).
and Zr have been difficult to separate, and usually occur together
commercial zirconium and zirconia has traces of Hf.) In recent years,
zirconium has been more and more available, so CZ's probably do
not show this.
Subject: Re: Issue No.18 - Mondayday December 2, 2002
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 19:47:18 -0600
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <email@example.com>
From: Downey <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: FS
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:15:39 -0500
> To: <email@example.com>
> From: "Tyler Allen" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> I had a Nigerian friend of mine send me some rough that he
needs to blow
> out. I have two kilos of Peach colored Zircon with a little
> mostly to cut melee but there are a lot of large stones as
well in the
> parcel. Also, I have 200 grams of dark blue Indicolite Tourmaline
> thats needs to be heat treated, last of all a parcel of 50
> assorted pink/red colored Tourmaline. Make offers. Tyler Allen
This is strictly a suggestion OK? Why don't you measure all the
into equal value parcel kits containing al 3 types of stones. Then
decide either how much the guy needs or price them on the indicolite
only and offer them right here OR on ebay with a minimum and let
know? Most hobby faceters would like all those materials. get the
prices under some price point and they'll go. Especially if you
paypal or a credit card and give a reasonable (3-7 day)return privilege
on unaltered goods. just an idea
1 Lucky Texan
Subject: New Orleans Rock Shop
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 23:14:01 -0600
To: "LapidaryArtsDigest" <email@example.com>
From: "Criss Morgan" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Try Baldwin Taylor Hardware. as far as I know it's the only rock
shop in town. There is a fossil shop on Magazine Street, but I don't
the name of it.
We don't seem to have many rock shops down this way. It might have
something to do with the fact that there's no rock in this part
of the state
that wasn't hauled in from somewhere else. Bedrock is something
feet below us here, having been buried by the Mississippi River
thousand years ago.
The phone number for Baldwin-Taylor is 504-833-9700. The address
Jefferson Highway. They used to keep a fairly good selection of
rough and some facet rough, but I haven't been there for several
years, so I
can't say for sure now. They also used to keep a pretty good supply
lapidary equipment and supplies.
I live 75 or 80 miles from New Orleans, but let me know when you
and maybe we can have a cup of Cafe' Au Lait at Cafe' Du Monde in
Subject: Re: Lakeside Lapidary
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 11:17:15 -0800
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <email@example.com>
From: Noel Rowe <firstname.lastname@example.org>
I'm hoping somebody will be able to help me locate an email address.
need to get in contact with Mr. Sid Leahy of Lakeside Lapidary in
Chehalis Wa. I know he is a member of one of the lapidary related
& am hoping either he or someone who knows him can help.
Rough To Cut
Subject: Help needed
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:49:05 -0500
From: "Baz" <Bazaar@starband.net>
New to lapidary and would like to know if there is any were a list
ruff size needed to get a certain final size?
RESOURCES FOR LAPIDARIES ~
Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
RESOURCES FOR FACETER'S ~
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com
RESOURCES FOR GEMOLOGISTS ~
Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org
FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~
*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, email@example.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters
Don Cameron: firstname.lastname@example.org
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, email@example.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, firstname.lastname@example.org
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: email@example.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, firstname.lastname@example.org
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, email@example.com
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch firstname.lastname@example.org
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, email@example.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, firstname.lastname@example.org)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.
(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write
( email@example.com or firstname.lastname@example.org
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REFLECTIONS AND TIDBITS:
" Champions are a rare breed.
They trust God while others ask for answers.
They step forward while others pray for volunteers.
They see beyond the dangers, the risks, the obstacles, the hardships."
--- Unknown ---
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:15:39 -0500
From: "Tyler Allen" <email@example.com>
I had a Nigerian friend of mine send me some rough that he needs
out. I have two kilos of Peach colored Zircon with a little red
mostly to cut melee but there are a lot of large stones as well
parcel. Also, I have 200 grams of dark blue Indicolite Tourmaline
thats needs to be heat treated, last of all a parcel of 50 grams
assorted pink/red colored Tourmaline. Make offers.
Rough to Cut
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Rough to Cut
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
From: "P. Miklik" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included
Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs
Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly
included, up to 1g.
Blue Beryl (Aquamarine) $6/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals
Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
Cabbing Grade Aquamarine $3/g
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For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host
first National and International Faceting Competition. It is called
the North American Faceting Challenge -- 'NAFC.' Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition. Please note: The designs
can be downloaded at <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003; the amount of time between
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2." If
information is needed, please contact me at <email@example.com>.
Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
From: Dan Clayton <firstname.lastname@example.org>
First USFG faceting list design competition.
Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in Colorless or Colored Topaz
Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.
Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.
Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.
head shadow 5 degrees
ignore glare no (default)
tilt movie yes (default)
starting tilt direction 0
ending tilt direction 5 (default)
maximum tilt angle 50
tilt increment 10
suppress VGA no (default)
concave no (default)
COS files no (default)
ISO files no ( you can enter yes if you wish
but it will fill your disk )
DISP files no (default)
exit files no (default)
starting file # increment each run if you wish to save images
Values for ISO will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional
Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.
all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.
more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so but most
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach.
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have
mentors who are happy to help you.
for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles,
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as
determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance
Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged
I hope this format will encourage design and optimization oldtimers
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.
Canaveral Mineral & Gem Society is again presenting
our yearly gem show, the Parade of Gems, November 23rd and 24th
Melbourne auditorium, 625 E Hibiscus Blvd in Melbourne, FL, from
6PM. Admission is $3, with kids under 12 admitted free.
Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's annual show will be held on Dec.
14 and 15 at
the Volusia County Fairgrounds, located on state route 44 in Deland,
Fairgrounds are 1 mile east of interstate route 4 at exit 118. We
will have at
least one showcase of faceted gems done by our members. Thank you,
FACETERS SYMPOSIUM 2003
Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003
You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show. The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th. That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday. The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June. All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.
The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests. A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium. There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels. Get started on your
competition entry soon.
The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.
For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below. Ask for one of the Packets. Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.
Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630 email: email@example.com
The Middle Tennessee Gem & Mineral Society, Inc. announces
22nd annual "Earth Treasures" Jewelry, Gem, Mineral and
There will be door prizes, auctions, exhibits, demonstrations and
dealers from around the US.
The MTG&MS is a not-for-profit educational society, made up
members from around Middle Tennessee, interested in the study, collection
and understanding of minerals, the earth's geological history, jewelry
making, and the polishing of gem stones. The profit from this annual
show and sale go to fund nine (9) scholarships at regional universities,
along with two Tennessee Elementary Schooll Earth Science projects
and two middle Tennessee Senior Citizens workshop programs.
Date: December 14-15, 2002
Time: 9 AM-6 PM Saturday & 10 AM-5 PM Sunday
Place: Creative Arts Building, Tennessee State Fairgrounds, Nashville,
Admission: $2.00 Adults, $0.50 High School Students, Under 12 free
with an adult
Contact: Will Smith (615) 366-1022 Show Chairperson
Web Site: www.mtgms.org Email: willsmith.2@comcastnet
Exhibits: Show cases of Fossils, Minerals, Jewelry, cut and polished
Including local Elmwood minerals from the zinc mines at Carthage
Tennessee Paint Rock Agate from the mountains of Middle Tennessee
Demonstrations: Silversmithing, beading, wire wrapping, flint knapping
Other activities: Hourly door prizes and silent auctions
Dealers will offer:
Gold and silver jewelry, mountings and repair
Colored gem stones & diamonds, loose or mounted in jewelry
Crystals and minerals from around the world including our local-world
golden calcites from Carthage
Fossils and artifacts including dinosaur life, marine life and
along with modern flint knapping
Tools and supplies for the above
Feel free to call if you have any questions. We appreciate your
help and support.
Roanoke Valley Mineral & Gem Society - 22nd Annual Show at
Salem Civic Center, Salem, VA 11/29-12/1/02. Thanks,Larry White
LAPIDARY ARTS and FACETERS DIGEST PERSONALS:
KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis
ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri)
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: firstname.lastname@example.org
INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields.
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ email@example.com.
Bird - Chalmette, LA)
MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting
cabbing please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org Thanks, Jim
TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: email@example.com
firstname.lastname@example.org or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield
Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!
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