Issue No.33 - Monday December 23, 2002
Moderated by: Thurmond Moore III
Committed to carrying on the fine works started
by Hale Sweeny and Jerry Dewbre
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Index to Today's Digest

01  Re: Radiation in gem materials
02  Re: Monster dops and advertisment
03  Re:Cab cutting on Raytech
04  teach or learn to read a vernier!
05  Re: 1" glass topped gemstone boxes


Subject: Radiation.
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:59 +0000
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: webmaster@gearloose.com

"What I am concerned about is small dosages over long periods of time. I
buy my rough in kilo quantities and it is sometimes stored for years before
I cut it. I am concerned about small dosages of radiation both for myself
and for my customers that wear the jewelry every day. I would like to know
information about diseases enhanced or caused by continuous low level
I also am interested in buying the correct radiation sensing device."

I have seen very little radioactivity in rough, unless someone is crazy
enough to deliberately facet some: http://www.gearloose.com/radnote.html
I routinely have surveyed various rough in the past because of the stories
regarding that "hot" crysoberyl years ago.
Moldavite is very very slightly radioactive (~10 CPM/Gram above background),
and I use this as an index as to whether it is real or not.  However, I was the
Radiation Safety Officer for a Fortune 500 for quite a few years, and have some
very good equipment.
Some zircon will be slightly radiocative from a hafnium isotope that naturally
occurs in the mineral. But both the above cases, were you to store a kilo under
your bed, would probably amount to one transcontinental plane flight a year.
As another example, we in New England get as much as 475 milliReMs annually
from radon and thoron from the local geology. But because of mistakes in the past
from gem treaters releasing materials they should not have, then getting some kind
of monitor is a good idea if you have a lot of rough stored long-term where you live.
The models selling for $200-400 such as the Monitor 400, etc. are not particularly
sensitive, but better than nothing.  Avoid military or Soviet surplus ion chamber
detectors, despite their low prices on place like e-bay; They are worthless for low
level surveys, as they were originally made to quantify the End Of The World, and
some of them go up to absurd levels like 500 Roentgens..at which point you would
not need a counter, because all your fluorescent lights would be "on" when the
switch was "Off", and you would not feel well enough to care. People collect Fiesta
Ware and live...and THAT stuff with the uranium glazes from the '70's does amazing
things to geiger counters and their owners.  I used to be able to give the Coleman
gas lamp mantle as an example of a radioactive material we often encounter, but in
recent years, Coleman stopped making them from Thorium Oxide, and substituted Yttrium.


Subject: Re: Monster dops and advertisment
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:36:27 -0800
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Don Rogers <Don@Campbell-gemstones.com>

I am still making the monster dops for the Raytech as well as any other
machine.  The price is $25.00 plus shipping.

I am also still doing the RayDial modification.  Price is $40.00 plush



Subject: Re:Cab cutting on Raytech
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:34:16 -0800
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com (LapidaryArtsDigest)
From: Don Rogers <Don@Campbell-gemstones.com>

At 01:36 PM 12/20/02 -0600, you wrote:
>I believe the Raytech shaft is not suitable as the
>thread is right handed.

This is't a problem,  the Crystalite Flex disk have a 1/4 20 RH
thread.  You can also use the star laps.

>Also the Raytech motor is not very
>powerful so large cabs are likely to be tedious

This is a problem though.  I tend to be heavy handed when cabing, or
preforming and I can stall out the motor.

I made a cooper cup setup using a 1 1/4" plastic drain pipe plug and  nut
so I could change the cups  I domed the cups in a big dapping block and
left a flange around the edge so the nut could lock it down.  This worked
well for cutting some star rubies a while back.  With no more leverage that
I had, motor stall wasn't a problem.



Subject: teach or learn to read a vernier!
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:06:25 -0600
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>,
From: Downey <alckytxn@swbell.net>



1 Lucky Texan


Subject: 1" glass topped gemstone boxers
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 05:41:38 -0300
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Robert P. Lowe Jr." <robertplowejr@uol.com.br>

22 December 2002

 >I'm looking for a source for 1" square gem boxes.  I can
 >find the round ones easily, but I have a nice case for the square
 >ones which I picked up in Germany.  Over the years, I've sold or
 >given away enough stones that I am running out of boxes!

Rio Grande has 30 mm square (1.2 inches) x 17 mm deep white plastic gem
boxes boxes with glass tops. Order # 454-176/10. They cost USD$ 11.50
for a package of 30 boxes plus shipping and handling. They are on page
183 of the Display and Packaging catalog (May 2002-May 2003).
Phone number 1-800-545-6566 or < www.riogrande.com >

They also sell them in 40 mm square (the ones I use), 50 mm square, 63
mm  x 60 mm x 22 mm deep, 90 mm square, and 100 mm x 26 mm x 19 mm deep.

Apparently these boxes are made in Thailand and there they cost about
1/3 of the Rio Grande price - so if you have any friends who travel to
Thailand - make sure they get you some there

Best regards
Robert Lowe
Lowe Associates - Brasil
Gemstones, Rough, Specimens
Tucson - February 6 - 11, 2003 - GJX # 205
e-mail: USA    <robertplowejr@juno.com>
e-mail: Brasil <robertplowejr@uol.com.br>


Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:21:17 -0600
To: <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "William Smith" <westernpd@ev1.net>

GREAT NEWS. For everyone who as emailed me about their intrest in
getting some of this great material I have just gotten word that I have
a 1000 cts of rough with the avg size around 2 grams but specials that
are almost 30cts. I have a photo of the whole parcel for anyone that
wants to see the whole parcel. Just email me and I will send them out
ASAP. Thanks again and MERRY CHRISTMAS, William



Hale Sweeny's Lapidary Digest Archives http://www.lapidarydigest.com/
International Lapidary Association http://www.gemcutters.org
http://webdev.archive.org/ then enter www.liccini.com


Facetron: http://www.facetron.com/
Graves: http://www.rockhounds.com/graves/
MDR: http://www.mdr-facet.com/
Polymetric: http://www.polymetricinc.com/
Ultra-tec: http://www.ultratec-facet.com
Fac-Ette Manufacturing Company: (910)256-9248
http://www.fac-ette.com/ 800-336-9248.
Raytech Industries: http://www.raytech-ind.com
Rock Peddler: 1-800-416-4348 / www.rockpeddler.com



Accredited Gemologists Association, http://aga.polygon.net/
American Gem Society, (AGS) 702-255-6500
American Gem Trade Association, (AGTA) http://www.agta.org
Gemmological Assc. & GTL / Great Britain, http://www.gagtl.ac.uk/gagtl
Gemmological Association of Australia, http://www.gem.org.au
Gemological Institute of America, (GIA) http://www.gia.edu.giagem
International Gem Society (IGS) web site is: http://www.gemsociety.org
International Colored Gemstone Association, http://www.gemstone.org


FACETING GUILDS (Alphabetically, World) ~

*Charleston Faceting Guild, South Carolina, wmcnay@mindspring.com.
*Columbia-Willamette Faceter's Guild, http://www.facetersguild.com/
*Danish Faceters Guild, http://medlem.spray.se/danfacet/
*East/Central Florida:Tomoka Gem and Mineral Society's Faceters Guild,
Don Cameron: ghgemcutter@earthlink.net
*Eastern Mass Faceter's Group, rockpeddler@attbi.com
*Faceter's Forum Society-LaPorte, IN VESteele@aol.com
*Faceter's Guild of N. California, Wayne Meissner, lklomp@cnetech.com
*Faceter's Guild of S. California, Jerry W. Carroll, (818)348-6327
*Intermountain Faceter's Guild, Carl M. Unruh, (360)385-3753
*Midwest Faceter's Guild, E-mail: tgibbs@compuserve.com
*Mid-Williamette Faceters Guild, Albany, Oregon, Michael E. Bumcrot;
E-mail @ MBumcrot@valleyoilco.com
*Moreton Bay is a branch of the Australian Facetors' Guild, Brisbane,
Queensland. http://cwpp.slq.qld.gov.au/afg
*New Mexico Faceter's Guild, Nancy Attaway, attaway@highfiber.com
*North Puget Sound Faceting Guild, Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net
*Tacoma Faceting Guild, Chuck Bloch chuck_b@prodigy.net
*Texas Faceter's Guild, Jill Rowlands, gemsbyj@aol.com
*Seattle Faceting Club (LeonardBahr@prodigy.net)
*United States Faceting Guild (Keith Wyman, tfw@fidalgo.net)
*Vancouver Island Faceters' Guild - British Columbia, Canada.

(Add your faceting organization here, US or International - Write to
( owner-lapidary@caprock-spur.com or owner-faceters@caprock-spur.com )



Subject: Letter re Santa Claus splitting his US territory

Santa Claus

I regret to inform you that, effective immediately, I will no longer
serve the States of Georgia, Florida, Alabama,
Virginia, North and South Carolina, Tennessee, >Louisiana, Mississippi,
Texas, and Arkansas on Christmas Eve.
Due to the overwhelming current population of the earth, my contract was
renegotiated by North American Fairies
and Elves Local 209. As part of the new and better contract, I also get
longer breaks for milk and cookies - so keep
that in mind.

However, I'm certain that your children will be in good hands with your
local replacement, who happens to be my
third cousin, Bubba Claus. His side of the family is from the South

He shares my goal of delivering toys to all the good little boys and
girls; however,there are a few differences
between us.

Differences such as:

1.There is no danger of the Grinch stealing your presents from Bubba
Claus. He has a gun rack on his sleigh and a
sticker that reads:"These toys insured by Smith and Wesson."

2. Instead of milk and cookies, Bubba Claus prefers that children leave
an RC cola and pork rinds  [or a moon pie]
on the fireplace. And Bubba doesn't smoke a pipe. He dips a little snuff
though, so please have an empty spit can

3. Bubba Claus' sleigh is pulled by floppy-eared, flyin' coon dogs
instead of reindeer. I made the mistake of loaning
a couple of my reindeer one time, and Blitzen's head now overlooks
Bubba's fireplace.

4. You won't hear "On Comet, on Cupid, on Donner and
Blitzen.." when Bubba Claus arrives. Instead, you'll hear, "On
Earnhardt, on Andretti, on Elliott and Petty."

5."Ho, Ho, Ho!" has been replaced by "Yee Haw!" And you also are likely
to hear Bubba's elves respond, "I her'd

6. As required by Southern highway laws, Bubba Claus'
sleigh does have a Yosemite Sam safety triangle on the back with the
words "Back Off."

7. The usual Christmas movie classics such as "Miracle on 34th Street"
and "It's a Wonderful Life" will not be
shown in your
negotiated viewing area. Instead, you'll see "Boss Hogg Saves Christmas"
and "Smokey and the Bandit IV"
featuring Burt Reynolds as Bubba Claus and dozens of state patrol cars
crashing into each other.

And Finally,

8. Bubba Claus doesn't wear a belt. If I were you, I'd make sure you,
the wife and the kids turn the other way when
he bends
over to put presents under the tree.

Sincerely Yours,
Santa Claus



" Failure does not mean that we are off the track to success.
It merely forces us to take a detour to success."

--- Author Unknown ---


I've lowered the price on my large lapidary unit to $700 which includes a
lot of extras and I'll even throw in the table it is sitting on.   A
lapidary friend in Salem tells me this is a real good buy for somebody.
If I don't sell it by Xmas then I'll move it from Salem, OR to SC with


     I have a lap I'm hoping to swap with someone on the list, in exchange
for faceting rough. The lap in question is a Crystalite 260-mesh "Dot Disc"
WITHOUT CENTER HOLE (ideal for someone who cuts on either a Facetron,
Crystalite "Crystal Master" or any brand of 8" cabbing equipment with a
1/4"x20 tapped screw holder at arbor's end). I'd received this as payment
for some faceting lessons, last summer, and which has only been gently used
once (literally). This lap is great for speedy stock removal, especially of
large, included areas of rough. The reason I'm unloading it is that it fits
neither my Ultra Tec nor Lee faceters, nor my 6" cabbing setup. (Sure does
make a nice paperweight, though!)
     At last check, laps like this listed around $150 and sold around $90;
I'm looking for one or more nice pieces of faceting rough, to total ~$75, or
thereabouts. (Beryls, fancy (orange, pink, green or yellow) Garnets, nodular
Tourmalines and clean Sapphires are my first picks but, if you can use this
lap, let me know what you have and we'll take it from there.)

Many thanks, in advance,

Douglas Turet, GJ
Lapidary Artist, Designer & Goldsmith.
Turet Design
P. O. Box 162
Arlington, MA 02476
Tel. (617) 325-5328
Fax: (928) 222-0815
Email: anotherbrightidea@hotmail.com


Subject: Offset Preformer for sale
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:08:41 -0500
To: LapidaryArtsDigest <lapidary@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Robert Edgar, Jr" <edgarr@mccc.edu>

Graves sells an Offset Preformer for $46.95.  We have one that was used
one time.  We would like to sell it for $25.00.  This includes all of
the original instruction sheets and the cost of shipping to any of the
"Lower 48".  Contact me offline if you are interested.
Bob Edgar    GSJ Lapidary


Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:40:35 EST
To: lapidary@caprock-spur.com
From: ACMEMINER2@aol.com

Howdy Folks!

I have a couple items that would make a great gift for the
lapidarist/collector on your shopping list this year!

Gem display cases and a great VHS video on mining gemstones in America! 
It will take you to some famous Tourmaline mines in Main and California.  Red
Emerald in Utah.  Sleeping Beauty mine in Arizona for Turquoise and Peridot
on the San Carlos reservation.  Sunstone in Oregon and much more!

You can see my items on my specials page at this link.






Subject: Advertisement
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:12:01 EST
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: GEMARTSERV@aol.com

Books by Glenn and Martha Vargas :  In time for CHRISTMAS
Faceting For Amateurs,  Third Edtion           $35   
Diagrams    Volume  I                          $30
Diagrams   Volume   II                         $30
Diagrams   Volume   III                        $30
Descriptions of Gem Materials,  Third Edition $25
Calif. residents please add 7.75% sales tax

Media mail rates:   Fac. for Amat.    $2.26
                             Others    $1.84
                             Any two  $3.10
Will advise on non US delivery
Contact Jerry Newman at:                gemartserv@aol.com

PS regarding the Vargas Pol-A-Gem laps:  They are all gone for this season. 
Glenn has agreed to make more in the spring when the weather warms up in our
desert; and will make Alumina-B as well as Cerium Oxide. I will post to the
list when more become available. Thanks to all who ordered over the last few


Subject: FS
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:15:39 -0500
To: <faceters@caprock-spur.com>
From: "Tyler Allen" <t.allen@mindspring.com>

I had a Nigerian friend of mine send me some rough that he needs to blow
out.  I have two kilos of Peach colored Zircon with a little red also
mostly to cut melee but there are a lot of large stones as well in the
parcel.   Also, I have 200 grams of dark blue Indicolite Tourmaline
thats needs to be heat treated, last of all a parcel of 50 grams of
assorted pink/red colored Tourmaline.  Make offers. 

Tyler Allen


Rough to Cut
If you're looking for quality facet rough please check out Rough to Cut,
http://www.roughtocut.com. We offer a wide range of quality facet rough
from Aquamarine to Zircon. Large selections in stock currently of Beryl,
Garnets & Tourmalines. Please check us out & when you do, why not give a
try to our contest, you could win a 5ct + piece of Spessartite garnet
facet rough.

Rough to Cut


Subject: AD
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:44 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: "P. Miklik" <b-daw@pacbell.net>

Contact b-daw@pacbell.net

Honey, red & brown zircons, 10g parcels @$20/parcel

Red Garnet $8/g, eye clean-slightly included
Spessartine Garnet $7.50/g, slight-moderately included
Malaya Garnet $6/g, good eye clean roughs
Tunduri Garnet $10/g, eye clean-slightly included

Pink Tourmaline $20/g, eye clean-slightly included
Red Tourmaline $10/g, slight-moderately included
Bicolor Tourmaline $15/g, eye clean
Watermelon Tourmaline $20/g eye clean
Green/Green Blue Tourmaline $10/g, eye clean roughs

Blue, Green & Blue/Green Sapphires $35/g, eye clean-slightly         
included, up to 1g.

Blue Beryl (Aquamarine) $6/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals
Green Beryl (Emerald) $10-$50/g, eye clean-slightly included crystals,
zoned green
Cabbing Grade Aquamarine $3/g


Rock Peddler
Complete online discount catalog for cabbing and faceting machines, wheels,
laps, polishes, diamond saws, diamond blades, and general lapidary supplies
at http://www.rockpeddler.com.


Gewelers Gems
e-mail: sales@jewelersgems.com
Solid copper laps 1/4 thick 8" and 6"  you can charge both sides with
diamond. http://www.jewelersgems.com/faceting_laps.htm


NOW ONLINE!  RRGaetan Gem Rough - Featuring excellent, facet-grade,
Colombian Emerald rough! PLUS, Chrome Tourmaline, Achroite Tourmaline,
Golden Chrome Tourmaline, Aquamarine, Spess, Mint and Malaya Garnets,
and more! For photos and more information, visit us at rrgaetan.com.




For All National and International Masters, Past-Masters and
World-Class Cutters:

This post is simply a reminder that in 2003 the USFG will host its
first National and International Faceting Competition.  It is called
the North American Faceting  Challenge -- 'NAFC.'   Since the designs
and rules were first published in the 2001 September Issue of  the
USFG's Newsletter, and since they have not been published since 2001,
some of you, who are most capable - skill-wise, may not
know about the competition, and some of you may have forgotten.   The
"NAFC" is an OPEN Competition.   Please note:  The designs and rules
can be downloaded at  <http://www.usfacetersguild.org/events.shtml>.
The closing date is June 20th, 2003;  the amount of time between the
present date and June 20th, 2003 should be enough for all Master
cutters to cut the two required designs -- Fred Van Sant's "Four
Star," and Charles Covill's "Wind Wheel No. 2."   If   further
information is needed, please contact me at <clmoon@pacbell.net>.

Charlie Moon


Subject: First USFG faceting list design competition.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:29:21 -0800
To: faceters@caprock-spur.com
From: Dan Clayton <dclayton@speakeasy.org>

First USFG faceting list design competition.

Design: Hexagon or Hexagon Cushion in  Colorless or Colored Topaz

Judging: Highest number for total ISO values at 0, 10, 20,30, 40
and 50 degree tilt with five degree head shadow in GemFramx will
win. Example parameters are given below to achieve this configuration.
Online designs must be submitted by January 10, 2003. Design and
cut entries should have the design posted by that date but stone judging
will take place at the OPLC Hobnob in Tucson in February 2003.

Publication: All entries will be posted on the USFG faceting list site
and possibly on the USFG site as well. Designs may be included in
a USFG list CD. Designers maintain copyright to their designs but
must allow posting on the USFG faceting list site. Posting or publishing
elsewhere is not only permitted but encouraged.

Followup: Additional contests may be held for other shapes and
materials if there is sufficient interest and participation.

RI                                       1.61
head shadow                      5 degrees
ignore glare                     no (default)
tilt movie                       yes (default)
starting tilt direction    0
ending tilt direction     5 (default)
maximum tilt angle      50
tilt increment                   10
suppress VGA                     no (default)
concave                          no (default)
COS files                        no (default)
ISO files                                no ( you can enter yes if you wish
 but it will fill your disk )
DISP files                       no (default)
exit files                               no (default)
starting file #                  increment each run if you wish to save images

Values for ISO  will be summed and used as ISO total.
ISO Total will be deciding factor in judging but there will be 30
points deducted for a missed meetpoint. Fractional

Special recognition will be given to most original design as determined
by team of four judges selected by Jeff Ford or delegate/s.


 all work must be done by one individual. In the
case of a fractional indices or an incomplete design a design
coach will explain how the problem can be fixed and the
entry will be moved to Coached class.

more than one individual from a club, guild or area may work together
 as a team. If an individual wishes coaching they may do so but most
work must be done by the entrant with only suggestions by coach. This
means Fred Van Sant or some other designer can not do a design that you
enter as your own. I encourage friends, club/guild members to enter as a
team. Do not hesitate to enter if you need some coaching. We have design
mentors who are happy to help you.

for a public domain design or a copyrighted design that the copyright holder
gives you permission to use. You enter design with modified angles, new tiers
or deleted tiers which gives "optimum" performance as determined by ISO
total. We will post at least two very basic designs you can enhance as you

Design and Cut,
design will be posted and ISO Total noted but beauty of the finished stone
will be the judging criteria. Stones will be judged at the OPLC Hobnob in
Tucson. Individual, Team/Coached and Modified designs will be judged

I hope this format will encourage design and optimization  oldtimers and
newcomers to get involved and hopefully develop their skills. All
entries will be posted on the site and may drive some traffic and interest.
I think ISO Total is as good as any single value to evaluate design
performance but we will look to improve criteria in the future.

Dan Clayton




  Presented by the Faceter's Guild of Southern California
    At the Seaside GEMboree AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show
           Ventura, California June 6-7-8, 2003

     You are invited to participate in the Faceters
Symposium 2003 which will be held at the Seaside Park
(Ventura Fairgrounds) at Ventura, California during the
AFMS/CFMS Convention & Show.  The Faceters Symposium dates
are June 6th, 7th, & 8th.  That is Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday.  The CFMS GEMboree is on those dates as well as on
Thursday the 5th of June.  All of this is at the same
location, just a hundred yards from the beach.

     The Faceters Symposium will feature ten speakers, who
will have presentations covering various parts of gemstone
faceting interests.  A Hospitality Hour on Friday evening
and a Saturday Awards Luncheon are also part of the
Symposium.  There will be competitions at the Novice,
Advanced, & Masters levels.  Get started on your
competition entry soon.

     The CFMS GEMboree itself will have buildings that have
exhibits on display, dealers with their wares to offer,
demonstrators to show how it is done, and speakers with
presentations covering other lapidary fields of interest.

     For information & costs regarding the Faceters
Symposium (including competition information), your contact
is listed below.  Ask for one of the Packets.  Be sure to
state your snail mailing address so that a Packet can be
mailed to you.

Glenn Klein, Chairman
24001 Muirlands Blvd., Space #79
Lake Forest, CA 92630        email:   glennklein@yahoo.com



KANSAS: If anyone in the central portion of the country from Oklahoma city
to Wichita to Kansas City would be interested in forming something like the
Flatland Facet Guild or some such name give me a line at
Larry W. Davis

ILLINOIS - MISSOURI (Central Area, hubed around St. Louis, Missouri) A
group of 4 faceters have met and we had a great time. We intend to meet
again and would like to have fellow faceters join our group. I received an
email from another Newbie that expressed interest in attending our next get
together. Faceters from any and all areas are welcome... It's swell to meet
personally and exchange tips and hints! COME JOIN OUR GROUP! It's FREE! ;o)
Doug Smith, Alton, IL .at: gembin@spiff.net

INDIANA: I moved to Valparaiso, (Northwest) Indiana, about three years ago.
Are there any clubs in this area? or is there anyone interested in starting
one? I do faceting and some cabbing. Not much here but cornfields. Nice
scenery, but I get sooooooo lonely. LOL Let me know. (Bill) "William
J.Pysnack" <wjpin@home.com>

S.E. LOUISIANA: Anyone in or around the New Orleans, LA area wishing to
form a club or have get togethers for faceting, discussions, cabbing,
procurement, etc. Please contact me via email @ tbird@bayouself.org. (Thom
Bird - Chalmette, LA)

MISSISSIPPI: If anyone is near Meridian Mississippi and would be interested
in forming some kind of club or just get together with faceting and/or
cabbing please e-mail me at jennings@netdoor.com Thanks, Jim

TEXAS: Anyone in the Corpus Christi or Coastal Bend area that is interested
in starting a local faceter's guild contact me at: hankswan@earthlink.net or
gemscc@msn.com or telephone 361-857-2405 (days) or 361-992-1296
(evenings).Hank swan

WASHINGTON DC.(Rockville Md area) Looking for folks to get together
occasionally to facet. I have just started faceting and am also interested
in sphere making (infinate # of facets) Robert Winfield

Lurking is fine, but participation is more fun!! Get involved!!


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